Any Cheshire collectors out there:
Just bought this one. Would appreciate thoughts, opinions, comments.
Haven't seen it yet, but I can see it already needs one morning glory hand.

Cheshire movement 4 - 11J??

Dave, it is an interesting Swiss movement. I recently posted the "lookouts" for these;

1. Equi-spaced "balance weights".
2. Un-cut solid brass balance wheel.
3. Pressed in Hairspring stud (no set screw).

That said, if it runs, I would keep it as an interesting variant.

Hi Dave & David,

Looks definately like a Cheshire Watch Co watch, I have 3 of these, 7 Jewel 3rd model. David, I know about the previous discussion about the tell tale signs of a swiss watch. With regard to these watches the three items you mention in your post was a regular feature on the lower grade 1st, 2nd and 3rd models. Also, the 1st and 2nd models in both 20 & 18 size had the stems attached to the movements. The higher grades such as the 18 size 21 Jewel 'North Western Special' did come with the set screw for the hairspring.


Best Regards,
Bila

Thanks guys for the assessment. I'll be the first to admit, I don't have a clue. All I had to go on was the price guide, p 163-164, and an advertisement in the R. Ehrhardt "American Pocket Watch Id and Price Guide" p. 188. And concluded that it was an 18s 4-7J 3rd model 1 star. And the serial number falls within the proper range of the short production. The company folded after 7 years of operation.

I'll try to post some clearer pictures when I get it.
I really appreciate the comments, good or bad!

Bila, I stand corrected by your notes. That is what I get for not looking before I "jumped" into that subject.

Dave, it is certainly listed and recognized as unique and collectible. The Jewel count may not be very high, but there were so few made, that matters little.

Thanks Dave, That makes me feel better. I certainly didn't buy it for looks or reliability.
We'll see what happens when I get it. I'll give you a report and hopefully some better pictures when it arrives.

In the worst case, I think it's a standard 18s reusable case.

Dave, I have an 18s/7j;2nd model with the pendant
attached to the movement. I do have the original
nickel case. Serial #25,498/ c1885-86. Owned past 12 yrs. Doesn't go for a walk often (neither do I)

BJ,
Post some pictures, I'd love to see it.

Am stone ignorant about photography and do not have the means or equipment to provide pictures. Sorry.

Got the Cheshire today.
The good news: Clean gilt finished unscratched, nice blued screws,nice dial, no hairlines, no signs so far of abuse or bad service history, case hinges work properly all covers open and close tightly, and should clean up nicely, sets easily.

The bad news: balance staff broken and wound tight.
Where on earth do you find a balance staff??