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What is it ?

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April 08, 2011, 00:04
Francis Bowman
What is it ?
Just bought this no clue to whom made it any feedback? Thanks In advance Francis


April 08, 2011, 00:05
Francis Bowman
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April 08, 2011, 00:20
Tom Brown
This is just a guess from the barrel plate shape, Hampden.

Is it marked "Lake Side"? I can't quite make it out.

Tom
April 08, 2011, 00:22
Francis Bowman
yes Tom is does say Lake Shore Jll,
April 08, 2011, 00:43
Tom Brunton
my first thought was a "Swiss fake" Wink but then I found reference to an illinois made for a Chicago retailer and marked Lakeshore Eek
April 08, 2011, 01:08
Francis Bowman
I seem to have a few of those "Swiss Fakes" I might be able to make a whole one soon ha....
April 08, 2011, 01:56
Tom Brunton
hi Francis ; a bit more searching and I found that Illinois made a Lakeshore movement for a chicago retail store I think Confused that's a possible though the spelling of the letter "I"as a "J" is confusing to me Roll Eyes maybe it was to make it look like they didn't make it LOL Wink
April 08, 2011, 02:29
Francis Bowman
Tom the seller did say it was Illinios Lake Shore, Private label . I have cleaned it up since i post the photos and it is a J for sure. Even the Wife whom is pandantic as said J for sure.... the plates seem very roughtly made, may be a fake or just poorly made. which is unusual.
April 08, 2011, 05:03
Francis Bowman
Tom I believe that your first indication is correct, a Swiss fake.... I looked at other Lakeshore in Ebay and they were very clearly marked Illinois and with Jewel count as well, unlike mine which is very roughtly made.... and crappy workmanship. The materials are not consistant either... Thanks for ur help Tom
April 08, 2011, 16:10
Richard M. Jones
Hampden made a Lakeside and I have seen a Hampden marked Lakeshore. It was a key wound nickle plate 18s and if memory serves I believe it was a private label. Illinois made a Lakeside and I have had 2 versions, one marked special and the other not so marked. I owned a nice example of a Swiss fake marked Lakeshore. These used to be called Gypsy watches because they were loaded with big glass jewels that did nothing and they were sold by peddlers to rural folks. One of my old Iowa farmer relatives got a kick out of telling me that about 50 years ago. I think his dad got taken with one. Anyway I feel sure yours is a Swiss fake.


Deacon
April 08, 2011, 16:41
Jerry King
Deacon is correct in that Hampden does make a Lakeside in fact we have one that sold here a few weeks ago....

Lakeshore is made by Illinois as seen below, one that I recently purchased for the case mainly, but this was inside....It is not running at the present time....

Regards,

Jerry


April 08, 2011, 18:27
Francis Bowman
I contacted the seller and informed him that it was a swiss fake, with out asking he refunded my money plus the postage. There are gentleman still left in this world on Ebay.... thanks every one for the input, I should of realized as I seen a lakeshore and was bidding on it some time back and did not win it....
April 08, 2011, 21:12
David Abbe
Heck it might have made a nice paperweight if you shined it up some! Cool
April 09, 2011, 22:33
Francis Bowman
It will come in handy when i produce my book on Swiss American Fakes haha