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Waltham 99 model "Railroader" grade

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September 04, 2014, 15:43
Derek Ramsdale
Waltham 99 model "Railroader" grade
You don`t see too many of this grade. I think Walthams made a run of 50 (10018001-10018050)around the turn of the century. 50 watches seems a very ,very small number to make & I`m wondering who they were made for. The movement could be a Riverside 17j except for the unusual damascening. According to Ehrhardt & Meggers gold book the dial would have had "Railroader" marked on it.This one has a Montgomery dial---- not sure if that would have been an acceptable replacement. Just wondering if one our members has some detail on this scarce 17jeweler.


September 04, 2014, 15:46
Derek Ramsdale
Waltham Railroader


September 04, 2014, 15:56
Gene Piano
Great watch, first one I have ever seen. Geno
September 04, 2014, 19:26
Michael Loggins
I wonder if this is one of the watches involved in the lawsuit by Hampden over the use of the word "Railroad?" Hampden won the lawsuit which might explain its rarity. Great watch.
September 04, 2014, 20:37
David Abbe
Just confirming you have (maybe the only) one of 50 assigned to that serial number series and the Gold book claims great collectible value (US$1200.00) for those claimed to have a dial marked "Railroader" as well.

The model 99 movement is unique with the off-center bulls-eye damaskeening. I think Hampden was more concerned with the term "Railway".
September 04, 2014, 21:43
Theodore J. Brown Sr.
Nice Waltham, Derek! It looks like somewhere along the line,someone replaced the regulator star wheel with a steel one,most of those really high grade Walthams came with a fancy engraved gold star, that should be pretty easy to find.Thanks for showing it!! Take care, Ted.
September 05, 2014, 00:13
Paul D. Trombley
Very nice. The styling on the Arabic numerals is really unique. And the off center damaskeen looks like it is centered on the balance wheel pivot.
November 04, 2014, 12:17
Derek Ramsdale
Looks like I`m not alone. I`ve found 2 other "99" Railroaders.
No. 10018047 has a gold star regulator & is fitted with a plain dial & 10018014 has a steel star regulator ( like mine ) & another plain dial.
I wouldn`t be surprised if the Montgomery dial was fitted as standard for a watch starting its working life. There seems to be no evidence of a true Railroader dial for this model - although somebodys bound to prove me wrong.
Not sure about the star regulator either but I`ll leave the steel one on mine.
November 04, 2014, 12:56
Lorne Wasylishen
quote:
There seems to be no evidence of a true Railroader dial for this model - although somebodys bound to prove me wrong.


The only "RAILROADER" dial I have seen is for a model 1892. About 1/2 way down This Thread.


November 04, 2014, 13:08
Gary E. Cochran
This is my 1888 Railroader..Dont know much about it..I have been looking for a double roller pallet fork for it for years..Maybe someday I will get it up and running..Until then it just sits around and looks sad..


November 04, 2014, 13:11
Gary E. Cochran
Pic 2


November 04, 2014, 14:36
Lorne Wasylishen
Gary, nice! Can you post the serial #?
November 04, 2014, 14:55
Gary E. Cochran
Sure..6,506,622... Smile
November 04, 2014, 16:02
Derek Ramsdale
Gary, With just my wife & I we have plenty of spare seating for your watch to sit & look sad.
Seriously, double rollers are pretty rare in an "88" model. Apart from the top grades ie.American Watch Co. , & Riverside Maximus that's about it although I have seen them in a Riverside non-magnetic model.
I`m looking for a double roller myself so we`ll both keep looking.