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23 Jewel Sangamo Special "Click" to Login or Register 
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I am new to the chapter and would liketo discuss
a watch. It is a Sangamo Special Marked
Sangamo
23 Jewels
Special
Motor Barrel 60
On the movement
Is anyone familiar with this marking?

Bob
 
Posts: 7 | Location: Massachusetts in the USA | Registered: January 16, 2010
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Hi Robert & Welcome.

If you could post the serial number we could tell you more about it. Also we do enjoy seeing photos of watches.

look forward to hearing more.

Tom
 
Posts: 5107 | Location: New Mexico in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2007
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Just from what you listed I would guess your serial number would place it some where between 1917 & 1923 model 10.

Tom
 
Posts: 5107 | Location: New Mexico in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2007
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Tom,

The Serial Number is 4,556,463.

Bob
 
Posts: 7 | Location: Massachusetts in the USA | Registered: January 16, 2010
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Hello Robert,

WELCOME ABOARD!

A similar watch number 4556151 which is a Model 13 sold recently in our IHC185 Auctions...

CLICK FOR: • 23-JEWEL SANGAMO SPECIAL 60 HOUR IN THE "STIFF-BOW" CASE •

Your movement likely does not have "Sixty Hour" markings although it would have a 60-Hour Mainspring.

We also have an active database on these...

CLICK FOR: Sangamo Specials, Marked Factory Wadsworth Cases Database

If you supply the detailed case information we can add your watch.

Lindell

Wink


Here is number 4556151 which is close to yours...


 
Posts: 10553 | Location: Northeastern Ohio in the USA | Registered: November 19, 2002
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I was wrong with my earlier information. From your serial number I show it to be a size 17 Open Face, Lever Set Model 13 Sangamo Special made in 1925 there were approx 11 runs & a total of 9280 made.

We would enjoy seeing the photos & good photos of the dial, if this is a 17 size a 16 size dial will also mount on the movement & over the years this has happened & it lowers the value of the watch. One way to tell is how close the dial edge comes to the case & movement edge.

Also, I am not an expert on these so I could be wrong on some of this.

Tom
 
Posts: 5107 | Location: New Mexico in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2007
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Tom and Lindell,

Thank You for your responses to my question.

To get the additional information I will be:

1.Checking the numbering on the back of the case
with the bezel and frame numbering for consistency.

2.Comparing the colors of the case with my 206
two tone colors.

3. Inspecting the fit of the dial to the movement for sizing 16 or 17.

I will post the information from my inspection as soon as I complete it. I also hope to post the photographs early next week.

Thanks again for your hospitally, knowledge and
your suggestions on how to proceed with the identifiction of this strange Sangamo Special

Bob
 
Posts: 7 | Location: Massachusetts in the USA | Registered: January 16, 2010
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Tom and Lindell,

I inspected the case: Back 14KTwgf 7986234
Bezel 14KTwgf E6234
Frame 14KTggf E6234

I also compared the case to a model 206 two tone.
The frame of the 206 is bright yellow gold and the Sangamo is a lighter pale green.


Bob
 
Posts: 7 | Location: Massachusetts in the USA | Registered: January 16, 2010
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Tom and Lindell,

I was looking through the rigid bow sangamos and
I found one that looks the same cosmetically
as mine. It is the one Adrea Schiavi (listed as
model 193 but rigid bow).

Bob
 
Posts: 7 | Location: Massachusetts in the USA | Registered: January 16, 2010
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