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Hello, I'm brand new to the forum and am really impressed with all the great watch images posted here.
I'm way out of my depth on this subject and am hoping to get some details about this Howard Series IV, S# 43635. The case has no "brand mark", just three hallmarks and the serial number. Also, from what I've read, the movement has no "adjusted" markings and so is adjusted only to isochronism? I'd appreciate any details you can provide!

 
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The dial...

 
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Case front

 
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Case back

 
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Hallmarks

 
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Larger hallmarks - I can't even tell what they are!

 
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Hello Todd

What a beauty!

You have a 18k Solid Gold case (crown & 18k stamped) - worth a pretty penny or two Big Grin

The umbrella hands nicely top off the dial

18sz - N (IV) series movement with golden gilded plates - fairly low serial # made roughly in the mid - 1870s - my guess would be 15 jewels
 
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Todd -- Early Howards weren't adjusted to any greater degree than isochronism until later series. And yes, an attractive watch (he says deadpan). Wink

kh
 
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sheeesh!! What a beautiful watch !!!! Eek
 
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WOW!!!!


Deacon
 
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What a beautiful Howard!Looks like it wasn't ever carried.Doesn't the "N" indicate an adjustment, I know some have a "deer" or "hound" which I think does.I always thought all Howards were adjusted....Ted.
 
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Thanks for all the comments. Smile
The hallmarks are interesting since there's no maker's mark (that I can recognize) - but there's that lion mark that I thought belonged on sterling silver. The case is a bomber - the watch weighs 180 grams...
 
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Todd,
That beautiful watch for a collector would be a keeper.
Tony
 
Posts: 1953 | Location: Atlanta, Georgia in the U.S.A. | Registered: August 01, 2003
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Fantastic looking watch Todd, the early Howards had normally 3 types of grade in relation to non-adjusted and adjusted for the series VII onwards.

As Ken said the ones that were not adjusted except for isochronism are unmarked or marked with a "hound" above the "N", the "Horse" signifies adjusted to Isochronism, Heat & Cold and the "Deer" to Isochronism, Temperature and Positions.

This does not apply to the earlier models like yours as some of these were totally devoid of adjustment markings or they were marked with "adjusted" scribed along the back-edge of the balance cock.

Up to Series VI models they were all 15 jewel, then series VII in 15-17 Jewel, series VIII in 17 Jewel, series IX in 15-17 Jewel, series X in 15 Jewel and series XI & XII in 17 Jewel only, please be aware that this is only what I have read over the years and others might have more up to date info.


Cheers to All,
Bila
 
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Quick tale:

Thinking I wouldn't see an early Howard this showy for a spell, I just now returned from a local antique show where a dealer there had a 14K gold, boxed case, series VII that nearly blinded me in the overhead light, the movement was so clean and bright (Todd's might be like that when held at the right angle). It was ridiculous.
I tried to come up with a trade idea, but he deflated my hopes fast when he said he collected Rockford and was after scarcer Rockford movements. I've got just one Rockford watch, and it isn't anything to get excited about; little contribution to the cause. Frown

Anyway, Todd, there were 20,000 series IVs made and some 27,000 series VIIs, but only a small percentage of those that have survived (esp. in their original case) look as good as what you have and what I saw in person today.

kh
 
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thats a SMOKER!!!!! a real beauty!!! enjoy that one
 
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