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I have just bought a Riverside, serial 10582368, a 0 size. I have got some ideas reading the Waltham Gray Book, and I bought, but now I would really like to have some expert advice ... it didn't cost me a fortune, so I will manly stand the facts ...  | |||
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Mario I am not the expert but what I do show is it is a model 1900 0Size 17 jewel, adjusted to temperature, raised gold jewel settings, gold center wheel, gold balance screws, patent regulator, damaskeened nickel, sunk seconds dial. It was available in both open & hunter. This info is from Ehrhardt's Vol1 Tom | |||
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Hi, Tom ... always so kind ! Well the point is that I read on Waltham ldgers "10581001-2500 sz 0 mod. 1900 cal. Maximus 17-19j pat.reg. Hunter case grade P", and I'm rather puzzled putting this into Shugart's. In any case it should not be a poor movement, valued less than 50 dollars | ||||
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Mario I can not tell from your photos if your is a hunter or open face, it looks like if yours is a hunter then it is listed on page 135 as Riverside 15J,16J,17J,SW,HC. If yours is open face then it is not listed. Tom | |||
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no, it's open face. I guess they did recase it, and convert from ladies to gents. | ||||
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Interesting item, the movement looks really good. When you find a "P" associated with Walthams if I remembrer correctly that is a "Premium" designation. The watch guide shows a similar 0-size movement at upper-left page 135 and there are Riverside listings on that page. It would help to see the dial, if as I suspect there is no seconds register then the fourth-wheel-pinion has been removed and an appropriate dial installed so the pendant is at an indicated 12 rather than 3 as it would have originally been. Seems the watch companies were left with vast numbers of left-over 0-size ladies hunters when they fell out of favor. Many 0-size movements were sold to men as early wrist watches and other movements from the vaults were converted in the manner we see on this one. Apparently it was was transformed into an open-faced watch that would then be accepted by a buyer who like the look of a nominally 12-size watch. This way an unusual and high quality watch could be marketed at an attractive price. Below, a New-Old-Stock case from the 1930s which was designed to help move out leftover inventory. These oversize cases helped sell off outmoded movements...  | |||
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For some reason this reminds me of Marjorie's Favorite Wristwatch. I remain in AWE of its quality, accuracy and workmanship! Those are certified Black Sapphires on the Gold Expansion band of a s/n 6464305 1893 period watch!  | |||
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I can readily see why you are in awe, David.... She,Marjorie, has one very very nice watch.... My wife, Mary Ann, would love it as well.... Regards, Jerry | |||
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Lindell, you're absolutely right, as the dial here attached shows: no seconds, pendant at 12, it's a Opera. I paid 36 $ so I do not think I've made too big a mistake, even if it is stated not working ... In any case the Gray Book description as "Maximus" does not fit, so, if I have not made a mistake in reading, there is something wrong there. Thanks for your help, and, gentlemen, have a nice weekend  | ||||
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Here is another example of the mating of a different size movement and case. This time it is a 6 size movement in a 12 size case, they used a metal spacer to fill the void. Regards Peter  | ||||
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