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Larry Lamphier
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I have a Fahys HC that says

"WARRANTED TO WEAR PERMANENTLY"

What does that mean as far as to the gold content?

Thanks!!

Regards,
Larry
 
Posts: 2733 | Location: Northeastern United States | Registered: February 28, 2010
Lorne Wasylishen
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This is what I found:
Warranted To Wear Permanently (stamped in cap) 14K Gold-Filled, no time limit on warranty, or Permanent, introduced about February 1901, by 1904: stamped "Fahys" w/ Caduceus trade mark in back.

Caduceus = a winged staff with 2 snakes.

That info was at the top of the list of Fahy's cases and there was no mention of solid gold so if it were my case I would assume it to be one of Fahy's best.
 
Posts: 2093 | Location: British Columbia in Canada | Registered: March 02, 2011
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
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I had a Hamilton case marked Permanent and I was told here it ment that it was gold filled or gold plated and the manufacturer warranted that the gold would never wear off. Of course I'm not sure the manufacturer ever thought these cases would be around over 100 years.
 
Posts: 3858 | Location: Georgia in the USA | Registered: September 22, 2011
Larry Lamphier
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Thank you guys!! I was stumped on this one.

Regards,
Larry
 
Posts: 2733 | Location: Northeastern United States | Registered: February 28, 2010
Edward L. Parsons, Jr.
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My former watchmaker told me it's about equivalent to a 30 year case as far as gold content goes.


Best Regards,

Ed
 
Posts: 6696 | Location: Southwestern Pennsylvania, USA | Registered: April 19, 2004
Robert V. Jones
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I agree with Ed on this as that is what I have always known.


tymekeeper005
 
Posts: 3468 | Location: Cleveland, Georgia in the U.S.A. | Registered: February 03, 2006
Mike Hodge
IHC Member 1016
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I was once told by someone who seemed to know (can't remember who) that ALL Fahey cases were gold filled if they contained gold. I had one that was clearly marked 14K, but it was filled.
 
Posts: 3112 | Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon in the USA | Registered: October 13, 2007
Jared Brinker
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South Bend marked cases as permanent also. They were gold filled with 25/1000 thick lids, which they stated were "22% pure gold". I have heard also that the permanent cases were considered equivalent to 30 years.

Most people back in the 20's didn't live to be the age we do now and since most watches weren't bought until at least someone was around 18 or older, it would have taken 30 years or so to wear thru, or the age of 48. I did a quick look, and in 1920, almost half of the people in the US that reached the age of 20 were dead by the age of 50. and close to 75% by age 60. This also figures that the person got the watch at age 18. If they were older than that when they got it, it just makes it even worse.

To say the least, they probably didn't have very many claims on their "permanent" cases.

Jared
 
Posts: 1626 | Location: North Dakota in the USA | Registered: December 09, 2009
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