October 31, 2010, 18:12
Bill GoffDueber Cased Locomotive Special 17J Leverset
Another curiosity has come to Billville! This is a 17J older looking pocket watch in a very heavy Dueber case ser. no. 47 05 case back inside cover. The center section is stamped 47 06 and the front is stamped 47 05.
The movement is called Locomotive Special Chicago USA and carry's ser. No. 1349858. The jewels appear to be ruby red. It is a lever set. The face has no cracks but needs cleaning. Like a lot of these watches you just wind it and it runs and keeps great time
October 31, 2010, 18:12
Bill GoffMovement. It looks like a serous watch but I cant figure if it was a $5 piece or a $40 dollar watch in the day. Marked 17J Adjusted on movement. Case is marked "silvertone" which sounds not expensive...
October 31, 2010, 18:41
Theodore J. Brown Sr.Hi Bill, That's definatley a "Swiss fake" RR watch.If you look at the balance wheel, it is uncut, and has a fake barrel arbor jewel.Looks like a nice one though, nice dial.That movement is shown on pg.54 of Roy Ehrhardt's Foreign & American book.I imagine some people collect these imitation railroad watches.I know they sold by the millions!Best regards, Ted.
October 31, 2010, 20:47
Roger J. NolfeThis Swiss Fake is particularly brazen in that they didn't even bother misspelling 'Chicago' and boldly put U.S.A. on it. Most of the Swiss Fakes have slight misspellings or a dash between words, such as New-York. Most of the Swiss Fakes are of very poor quality.
October 31, 2010, 21:31
Edward L. Parsons, Jr.I concur, the Locomotive Special was one of the better known Swiss fakes. A "23 Jewel Adjusted" version of this same movement is depicted on the upper right corner of page 97 of the Shugart watch guide.
Whenever you see a picture of a steam locomotive engraved on the plates of a watch movement, it will be a Swiss fake 99% of the time.
November 01, 2010, 19:15
Bill GoffI only wear Hamilton, Waltham, and Ball myself. I have a few friends that wear these heavy silver or silver colored watches cause they bought them for under fifty bucks on the bay.
The Locomotive watch is worn by a fellow railroader daily. Keeps good time. I don't think I will dash his thoughts on the watch. I knew there was something odd about it. So many jewels- so few moving parts. Thanks for responding...