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Elgin Veritas Grade 350 serial #'s wanted

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January 09, 2008, 02:31
Ray Hallenbeck
Elgin Veritas Grade 350 serial #'s wanted
Hello everyone,
I am collecting serial #'s for the Elgin 23 jewel Veritas grade 350.
There was only 1 run of 1,000 watches between serial numbers 12,717,001 thru 12,718,000.
Any known numbers for my database would be greatly appreciated.

Ray
January 09, 2008, 06:08
Marty Bell
Sure, Ray-I'll be glad to help. Mine's #12717610-good luck! - Marty


Marty
January 10, 2008, 01:13
Ray Hallenbeck
Thank you Marty.
Cmon guys, I know they are out there somewhere !
Ray
January 10, 2008, 08:06
Bob Kapinos
Ray,

Sure wish I had one to report. It would make a great addition to my collection.

Regards

Bob
January 10, 2008, 23:43
Marty Bell
Ray-Is your database posted? thanks - Marty


Marty
January 11, 2008, 17:34
Ray Hallenbeck
Marty,
Afraid I don't have much to post yet, just 3 numbers...Your's, Mine and one other. Only 997 more to go Eek

I will post it if I get any additional information. Should get easier with the internet's popularity.
Ray
January 11, 2008, 20:47
Tony Dukes
Ray,
Larry Buchan has a pic of a veritas 350 on this very site. Smile
January 12, 2008, 00:27
Ray Hallenbeck
Thank you Tony,
Try as I might I cannot find it on this site. I checked by title and by his name, any idea of where it is located ?.
Thank you,
Ray
January 12, 2008, 07:40
Bob Kapinos
Ray,

I believe this is the picture Tony mentioned.

Regards,

Bob


January 12, 2008, 14:55
Ray Hallenbeck
Thank you Bob, it's been added. Only 996 to go Big Grin
Ray
January 12, 2008, 16:13
Lindell V. Riddle

Ray,

Looks like quite a hill to climb! Checking Wayne Schlitt's On-Line Elgin Database for your number 12717863 there is a "Search eBay Logs for 350 Watches" which brings up the following numbers...


12717289

12717562

12717610

12717783

Perhaps that will add a couple to your list. Big Grin And to research posts on our site try "Find-Or-Search" tab which can locate some interesting answers. Here's the one Bob used to find Larry's watch...

"Find-Or-Search" for "Elgin 350" on all IHC185 forums.

Enjoy the hunt, let us know what turns up!

Lindell

Wink

January 12, 2008, 20:55
Ray Hallenbeck
Great Lindell, thank you for the information.

WOW, almost there Eek

Ray
January 14, 2008, 22:54
David Abbe
I just won s/n 12717805 on eBay from an estate auction. Will report more when it arrives.
January 14, 2008, 23:40
David Abbe
This new addition joins my Gr 453, which I con only see the model 15 plate cuts to justify a separate listed grade.


January 14, 2008, 23:46
David Abbe
I am still puzzling at the ornate but micro-engraved "U3966" (arrow) under the case s/n 1899043 along with about 50 service signatures. btw this case says "Illinois Watch Co., Elgin USA BONA FIDE! Anybody have a clue why they have to add "BONA FIDE"?


January 14, 2008, 23:59
Ray Hallenbeck
Thanks David,
It's a beauty, congrats on the win. It has been added to the growing list.
I don't know what the markings on the case was for but has to special if it's "BONA FIDE" right?

Ray
January 15, 2008, 12:24
David Abbe
Ray, Those two pics of the mvt and the "Bona Fide" case are of my grade 453. The grade 350 I won has not arrived yet. More on that when it does. It's interesting that there are two completely different 16s Elgin "Veritas" movements so close together. The grade 453 being a model 15 movement, whereas the 350 grade is the model 7 type that is not cut with the 3 false,'swissy lookin' fingers.
January 30, 2008, 11:17
Chris Abell
Just thought I would post a picture of the more common Grade 214 Veritas 23J recently aquired cleaned and keeping near perfect time now after many years of abuse.


January 30, 2008, 11:17
Chris Abell
2


January 30, 2008, 23:47
Ray Hallenbeck
Very nice Veritas Chris.

Ray
January 31, 2008, 08:04
Dr. Debbie Irvine

Yes Chris, very nice indeed!

Thanks,

Debbie
Smile

January 31, 2008, 20:21
David Abbe
I finally got my "new" 350, so here it is!


January 31, 2008, 20:32
David Abbe
Again, this is s/n 12717805 c.a. 1905, kinda plain dial


August 02, 2008, 05:09
Ray Hallenbeck
Another grade 350 Veritas has surfaced, It is serial # 12717230 and E-bay number is # 150275229714.

Ray
August 02, 2008, 11:54
Larry D. Rush
I can lay my hands on these three
#12717451
#12717716
#12717971

Larry Rush
August 02, 2008, 15:00
Ray Hallenbeck
Thanks Larry for the numbers,
I now have 11 in my database.....Only 989 to go Eek

Ray
February 21, 2010, 01:29
Ray Hallenbeck
An update to my list...
12717222 is currently listed on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/23-Jewel-E...297b2#ht_2633wt_1246
February 21, 2010, 01:36
Ray Hallenbeck
And I now have 18 of the gr 350 Veritas numbers.
12717017
12717064
12717222
12717230
12717289
12717436
12717451
12717482
12717546
12717562
12717610
12717659
12717716
12717783
12717792
12717805
12717863
12717971
Any others would be much appreciated.
Ray
March 02, 2012, 14:00
Claude Griffith
Add two more to the list,

12717356-Mine and I will post pictures when it arrives.

12717276- Friend in Bama, both are legit and verified.
March 02, 2012, 18:08
Ronny Manis
I have 12717259.
March 02, 2012, 19:42
Ray Hallenbeck
Thanks for the updated numbers.
March 03, 2012, 01:16
Peter Kaszubski
I have one in grade 453


March 08, 2012, 10:33
Chester W. Olson
I have 12717793