Internet Horology Club 185
Elgin Veritas Grade 350 serial #'s wanted
January 09, 2008, 02:31
Ray HallenbeckElgin Veritas Grade 350 serial #'s wanted
Hello everyone,
I am collecting serial #'s for the Elgin 23 jewel Veritas grade 350.
There was only 1 run of 1,000 watches between serial numbers 12,717,001 thru 12,718,000.
Any known numbers for my database would be greatly appreciated.
Ray
January 09, 2008, 06:08
Marty BellSure, Ray-I'll be glad to help. Mine's #12717610-good luck! - Marty
Marty
January 10, 2008, 01:13
Ray HallenbeckThank you Marty.
Cmon guys, I know they are out there somewhere !
Ray
January 10, 2008, 08:06
Bob KapinosRay,
Sure wish I had one to report. It would make a great addition to my collection.
Regards
Bob
January 10, 2008, 23:43
Marty BellRay-Is your database posted? thanks - Marty
Marty
January 11, 2008, 17:34
Ray HallenbeckMarty,
Afraid I don't have much to post yet, just 3 numbers...Your's, Mine and one other. Only 997 more to go

I will post it if I get any additional information. Should get easier with the internet's popularity.
Ray
January 11, 2008, 20:47
Tony DukesRay,
Larry Buchan has a pic of a veritas 350 on this very site.

January 12, 2008, 00:27
Ray HallenbeckThank you Tony,
Try as I might I cannot find it on this site. I checked by title and by his name, any idea of where it is located ?.
Thank you,
Ray
January 12, 2008, 07:40
Bob KapinosRay,
I believe this is the picture Tony mentioned.
Regards,
Bob
January 12, 2008, 14:55
Ray HallenbeckThank you Bob, it's been added. Only 996 to go

Ray
January 12, 2008, 16:13
Lindell V. Riddle
Ray,
Looks like quite a hill to climb! Checking Wayne Schlitt's On-Line Elgin Database for your number 12717863 there is a "Search eBay Logs for 350 Watches" which brings up the following numbers...12717289
12717562
12717610
12717783
Perhaps that will add a couple to your list.
And to research posts on our site try "Find-Or-Search" tab which can locate some interesting answers. Here's the one Bob used to find Larry's watch...
"Find-Or-Search" for "Elgin 350" on all IHC185 forums.
Enjoy the hunt, let us know what turns up!
Lindell

January 12, 2008, 20:55
Ray HallenbeckGreat Lindell, thank you for the information.
WOW, almost there

Ray
January 14, 2008, 22:54
David AbbeI just won s/n 12717805 on eBay from an estate auction. Will report more when it arrives.
January 14, 2008, 23:40
David AbbeThis new addition joins my Gr 453, which I con only see the model 15 plate cuts to justify a separate listed grade.
January 14, 2008, 23:46
David AbbeI am still puzzling at the ornate but micro-engraved "U3966" (arrow) under the case s/n 1899043 along with about 50 service signatures. btw this case says "Illinois Watch Co., Elgin USA BONA FIDE! Anybody have a clue why they have to add "BONA FIDE"?
January 14, 2008, 23:59
Ray HallenbeckThanks David,
It's a beauty, congrats on the win. It has been added to the growing list.
I don't know what the markings on the case was for but has to special if it's "BONA FIDE" right?
Ray
January 15, 2008, 12:24
David AbbeRay, Those two pics of the mvt and the "Bona Fide" case are of my grade 453. The grade 350 I won has not arrived yet. More on that when it does. It's interesting that there are two completely different 16s Elgin "Veritas" movements so close together. The grade 453 being a model 15 movement, whereas the 350 grade is the model 7 type that is not cut with the 3 false,'swissy lookin' fingers.
January 30, 2008, 11:17
Chris AbellJust thought I would post a picture of the more common Grade 214 Veritas 23J recently aquired cleaned and keeping near perfect time now after many years of abuse.
January 30, 2008, 11:17
Chris Abell2
January 30, 2008, 23:47
Ray HallenbeckVery nice Veritas Chris.
Ray
January 31, 2008, 08:04
Dr. Debbie Irvine
Yes Chris, very nice indeed!
Thanks,
Debbie

January 31, 2008, 20:21
David AbbeI finally got my "new" 350, so here it is!
January 31, 2008, 20:32
David AbbeAgain, this is s/n 12717805 c.a. 1905, kinda plain dial
August 02, 2008, 05:09
Ray HallenbeckAnother grade 350 Veritas has surfaced, It is serial # 12717230 and E-bay number is # 150275229714.
Ray
August 02, 2008, 11:54
Larry D. RushI can lay my hands on these three
#12717451
#12717716
#12717971
Larry Rush
August 02, 2008, 15:00
Ray HallenbeckThanks Larry for the numbers,
I now have 11 in my database.....Only 989 to go

Ray
February 21, 2010, 01:29
Ray HallenbeckAn update to my list...
12717222 is currently listed on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/23-Jewel-E...297b2#ht_2633wt_1246February 21, 2010, 01:36
Ray HallenbeckAnd I now have 18 of the gr 350 Veritas numbers.
12717017
12717064
12717222
12717230
12717289
12717436
12717451
12717482
12717546
12717562
12717610
12717659
12717716
12717783
12717792
12717805
12717863
12717971
Any others would be much appreciated.
Ray
March 02, 2012, 14:00
Claude GriffithAdd two more to the list,
12717356-Mine and I will post pictures when it arrives.
12717276- Friend in Bama, both are legit and verified.
March 02, 2012, 18:08
Ronny ManisI have 12717259.
March 02, 2012, 19:42
Ray HallenbeckThanks for the updated numbers.
March 03, 2012, 01:16
Peter KaszubskiI have one in grade 453
March 08, 2012, 10:33
Chester W. OlsonI have 12717793