I consider any production of 100 or less " Rare " Like a 161B Bunn Special or Washington " Greenwich" Scarce falls into the 100-500 range- that is where this Lafayette would fall- They are not extremely hard to come by.
Terry
Posts: 84 | Location: Central Illinois in the USA | Registered: December 12, 2013
Welcome Mike As you can tell, the conversation goes many directions here. I got Rogers watch here and coincidently it sits on the table during the high winds today. Really fantastic Timekeeper +_ 7 sec/day Can't help with your question 'rare or scarce' Maybe just doggone I like that one. My research indicates Montgomery ward sold these for Illinois Mike
Mike that is a good question. In many cases what one person thinks is rare is not necessarily even scarce. As an example the 21 jewel Illinois Bunn Special 16 size is neither rare or scarce although very collectable. However the 19 jewel 60 hour 16 size Bunn of the same time period is in my opinion scarce. By scarce I mean hard to find. An 18 size Ball Hampden is , again in my opinion rare because not many were made and not many exist. Value is really a function of demand. I happen to collect Hampdens and I have 2 John C. Dueber, signed with a full signature, 16 size watches adjusted to 5 positions and featuring raised gold jewel settings. I only know of 1 other and while I would describe those watches as rare someone else might say uncommon or scarce and no matter which description you use you probably could not get $200 for them as Hampden collectors are rare or at least scarce!
Deacon
Posts: 1004 | Location: Omaha, Nebraska in the USA | Registered: February 14, 2009
Just got back my watch back from Chris at Abell Watchmakers and it is sweet. He put the Lafayette movement into the correct case and with the correct dial (thanks again Buster for the lead). He COA'd the movement, changed out the mainspring as it was shot due to being idle for many years, cleaned and polished the case and nicely fixed the one chip in the dial I had sent him. The watch is running great and I will be posting pics in the next few days. Thanks all for all your help to get me to this point with this watch.
Posts: 26 | Location: Surprise, Arizona in the USA | Registered: August 08, 2016
Your very welcome Mike, that's the reason this club exists, to help one another. We would love to see the new pictures !! And if you're going to sell it, try it here in our auction venue or in our 'Buy-It-Now',[For Sale] fixed price section.
There has been a lot of interest on your watch and we have lots of collectors and a few dealers among the membership. The best part of IHC185 is the integrity among members, the NO FEE for sellers or buyers and the camaraderie that we share. Best of Luck !!
regards, bb
Posts: 6376 | Location: Texas in the USA | Registered: July 27, 2009
It has been real fun with the help of you and others on the Board to get this watch "right". I have learned a lot and if I was 30 years younger, would become a serious collector. I am still doing some dd and have been told by some "watch people" to sell it on Ebay because I probably could get more money and it will hit a larger audience.
I have decide when I sell, to sell it on this Board as I am grateful to all who helped and taught me about this watch. I want this watch to find a great home and to someone who will appreciate it.
I have looked a lot on the internet for other Lafayette's that sold and their are not many and I could not find any of the first run watches either. Still looking for any info on this. I did find a serial number log and that showed this watch being in the first run of Open Face, Bunn Special Grade that they made. Also Chris Abell confirmed that the watch is a single roller (you already knew this Buster). Thanks again all for your help.
Posts: 26 | Location: Surprise, Arizona in the USA | Registered: August 08, 2016
In case anyone might find this interesting, there is a "Washington Watch Company" advertisement from Montgomery Ward and Company of Kansas City Missouri (not Chicago Illinois) dated 1909 on page 17 of the Meggers-Ehrhardt Illinois Watch Company Encyclopedia and if you want a copy of the ad but do not have the book we can eMail you a PDF File.
On the LaFayette Bunn Special Grade 24-Jewel Watches, for those who track numbers, the one in my collection is a Double-Roller example number 2592138 from 1913 a run of 30 per page 985 in that same Illinois book.
Interesting topic!
Lindell
Posts: 10553 | Location: Northeastern Ohio in the USA | Registered: November 19, 2002