Last month I picked up this 23J Sangamo Special. It is serial number 3,775,106 making it circa 1920. I thought everything was correct when I bought it, but I am now starting to wonder about the dial. My concern is the direction of the arrows. I have found "arrows out" Sangamo dials with the chunky block letters (with the angular cuts), but can't find an arrows out S.S. Sangamo dial with Arabic numbers. This dial appears to be a 17s because there is no gap around the outer perimeter, but the direction of the arrows is starting to bother me. What do you Sangamo experts out there think?

Here is a shot of the movement.

This is the markings on the case.

Bruce,

Here is the same dial that came off of a 17 size Model 10 movement just like yours. I have since sold the movement but kept the dial. I did not realize at the time how hard it was to find a case for it so I parted out what I had.

Steve

Whew! What a relief. Thanks guys for providing me with the good news. Lin, thanks for adding my watch to the data base. It was kind of neat seeing it there. I noticed, though, that on that page there isn't a single sunk, Arabic numeral, arrows out dial like my watch (and what Steve is showing). Do you think they made a lot less of those, compared to the dials with the chunky, angular, san-serif font we see so often?

Lin, this is amazing stuff. The exciting thing about seeing these pictures is that my dial, and Steve's dial, may have actually been made by this same lady! As a matter of fact, one or both of our dials could actually be in the picture — probably not, but who knows? I bought my Sangamo Special last month, but am actually feeling more excited about it tonight than when I first took delivery. It is turning into a real learning experience and that's one of the great aspects of this hobby .