I just picked up this Elgin 14s, and like I said, if you think the 10s cases are hard to find, try the 14s. They are just not out there.

I picked this one up because a IHC 185 buddy let me know it was out there. (Thank you)

This gets me just a little bit closer to my goal of owning all grades, styles, and sizes of Elgin's, with or without a case.

This one is from the Lord Elgin Series, and although it's not a NAMED Elgin, it was used by that name in Ads.

It's a size 14s, 17J, Adj., grade 359, 1909 Elgin that is one of a thousand out of only 4000 made.
Not bad, for what I paid.

Does ANY company, ANYWHERE make watch cases, that are worth owning?

These are ebay pictures, the watch is even better!

Shelia
These watches were factory cased--both GF and solid gold .The cases typically say Lord Eligin Series.


Bob

Robert,

Wow, thank you for that great piece of information, I didn't know that. I don't know a lot about, what I call the "off" sizes of Elgin's yet, but hope to pick up a lot more over the next few months.
I got caught up in the Father Time, and the Veritas models, but since I'm not ready to purchase them yet, I started on the "off" sizes first. I do like the idea that these have their own cases, so that's one more thing that I'll start looking for. Who knows, there may still be a few out there.

Thanks again for posting the information, we all depend on things like this so much.

Great to have a place like this to share all these gems of information too.

Shelia
The advantage of the 14 size watch is that it gives the illusion that it is thinner. Ad from 1913/14 show 17 and 15 jewel movements. Your
17j adj was the most expensive at $49.00 in a 25 yr GF case.

I have also seen 7j movements in Lord Elgin Series cases.

Cases were marked either Lord Elgin or Lord Elgin Series.

THE BEST PART-- Roy Ehrhardt who published the Elgin Price Guide noted "Movement will not fit any other case that I know of"

Bob

It may be the way im looking at it but doesnt it seem like a 12s movement arrangement with a larger top plate?

Darien
You are correct. Illinois did the the same thing with their grade 500 series watches.

Shelia it hadn't occured to me before but maybe a Hallmark case ( Illinois made the movements for this brand) might work for your watch

Bob

Thank you guys, and gal!

There are always so many nice pieces of information for me from everyone, and I just love it.

Although Elgin's have always been my favorite, I have picked up a few other wathces over time, and of course, had to learn about them, at the cost of leaving out way too much information about my favorite, the Elgin.

Needless to say, it sure is nice to have friends that can help me get the information I need, and what great information it is!

My FIRST goal when I started years ago, was to have an example of every Elgin, and I don't have to tell you guys, how hard it is when your new. It's like being a kid in a candy store.
I purchased many Elgins, but could not resist finding out about so many other beautiful watches, and of course, owning them too.

Your "yummy tidbits" about my newest finds sure helps me with my goal, because I just HAVE to have supporting information for my watches. For me, it's what makes my collection complete.

I did find another one that's a 14s, in a case, but alas, I'm broke, so we know how that goes.

Robert, Hallmark? Tell me more please. ????????
I did also look up Ad's but found few, so your info. is great. I'll keep looking.

Darren,
You are so right about the 12s, being the same as the 14s, it looks almost Identical, and it confused me too, but the model 2 size 12, is different. It took looking up a lot of infornation from the Elgin site, but did figure it out. The biggest difference to me was, the slight groove around the plates, and because I have a really hard time with the names of all the parts, I had to search everything, and depend on my friends here to fill me in. You have a good eye too!

My new goal is to find a nice Watch Case maker, and see what we can do, about not having any cases for some of our great old timepieces.