Jerry T., Nice advertisement! Father Time has traveled far distances in his day ah? Thanks for participating Jerry!
Phil D., Thanks for Old Father Time link. Looks interesting! Will peruse as time permits!
Nice Ed! Thanks!
Fred H., Nice Father Time Elgin passholder collection. They look to be in great shape. Are they hard to come by? Your token is neat! And a big wow on your reverse painted glass Father time sign! Thanks for participating!
Others with Father Time watch/or adverstisement you may want to share?
Stephanie O'Neil
Posts: 1419 | Location: New Orleans, Louisiana USA | Registered: April 01, 2003
As a whole the Elgin passholders aren't that hard to find (probably about as easy/hard as finding a Hamilton celluloid passholder, and easier to find than Waltham or Hampden) ... but there are some variations on these and some are easier to find than others. Also, most Elgin passholders have a Father Time image but some do not.
In the picture above you can see all three are slightly different sizes, the one on the left loads from the top and the other two from the side, and the ones on the outside are clear celluloid front and rear (with a white card inserted to show the graphics better) but the one in the middle has a white celluloid front piece (no card is inserted in the above pic).
Here is the dial of the my free sprung Father Time. I understand this 18 size watch to be a Grade 367 from around 1918. The movement is #21,098,266. It is stem wound and lever set, has 21 jewels and is adjusted for 5 positions. The movement is in a nickel or base metal display case. I believe that the movement originally was mounted in gimbals in a wooden box, for use as a deck watch aboard ships. I purchased this watch at a Jones Horan auction several years ago.
Posts: 1414 | Location: Pasadena, California USA | Registered: November 11, 2005
Just to honor the tradition, I've pulled the old 'Father Time' thread back to the top for the New Year, and just wanted to add that in the past year I have successfully added two Father Time's to my collection as well.
No photos, sorry, but one is a 367 and the other a 454. Both perfect time keepers.
Regards! Mark
Posts: 3838 | Location: Estill Springs, Tennessee, USA | Registered: December 02, 2002
Here is my 18 size free sprung Father Time WI (pictured above) but now with the perfect Elgin enamel dial I purchased to replace the original and somewhat aged painted dial that came with the watch (which I am keeping with the watch).
Posts: 1414 | Location: Pasadena, California USA | Registered: November 11, 2005
The truth is Father Time was a "Closet Flasher" and not very good at staying there either! This Grade 373 HC FT is going "on the bench" in a day or so. It must be cleaned and put back in a HC!
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007
I knew there was another F T on my timing board. This one is an "old" model 7 movement that has been running too accurate to mess with. But I just looked at the winding stem side of the movement and I think it is lubricated with coal dust! So now I think I will clean it asnyway.
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007
This guy saw a lot of "time in service", the case cover service markings look like the dead sea scrolls. The dial is so good, it must be a replacement.
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007