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RE: A Watch marked Bedford A. A. "Click" to Login or Register 
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Hello again,
Could I get some help with this watch please.
I can't figure out who made this watch. My search comes up with Nothing on Bedford.
Can you tell me what the SCALES mean on the cover flap?
This watch is Approx 2" much larger than any of the watches I have sold.
Thank you in advance for any help you can give me.
Franny
 
Posts: 15 | Location: Massachusetts in the USA | Registered: March 17, 2012
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Sorry I forgot to put the pictures.
Franny

 
Posts: 15 | Location: Massachusetts in the USA | Registered: March 17, 2012
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Another picture. I didn't know how to include more than one picture.

Inside works
 
Posts: 15 | Location: Massachusetts in the USA | Registered: March 17, 2012
IHC Member 1291
Picture of Buster Beck
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From appearances, it appears to be a Swiss made watch with its snail regulator and click. The seconds sunk [single sunk] dial is another clue that it is possibly of Swiss origins.

The dial style, exposed winding wheels, nickle plates, and Brequet hands + the case style, all point to a 40-50mm watch from 1910-1920 era.

The "scales" as you describe on the case lid sound like the trademark symbol used by Keystone on their "J. Boss" watch cases which denotes a gold filled case.

regards,
bb
 
Posts: 6376 | Location: Texas in the USA | Registered: July 27, 2009
IHC Life Member
Picture of David Abbe
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Frances, this is a very high end Swiss-made watch for North American distribution. The "Bedford A.A." signature is probably representative of the Reseller-Jeweler who ordered these from Switzerland. The "brand" smacks of Omega/Longines due to their design regulator but the rest of the parts (and low serial number) suggest that it came in via Julius Assman-Dietrich Gruen who diddled together in the late 19th century with importing and distribution of high-grade Swiss timepieces while Gruen re-arranged his business to import and sell Swiss watches under his own name/Trademark.
All that said, your watch is VERY MUCH worth restoration and preservation and their may be more information under the dial when that is accomplished.
 
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007
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Thank you David Abbe. So, how do i I describe this?
I am selling this on Ebay for a friend. He wasn't sure if it was GFilled or not etc.
BTW, this is in perfect running condition. I was really surprised when i set it this morning. Would you know how many jewels it is and can give a guess as to what it might be worth to someone.
Thanks for your response today, i thought nobody was going to respond.
Fran
Thank you also BB for your input. This has been a big help. Maybe it's time for bed for me, because for some reason, I cannot come up with a title for this, if I don't have a name for it. Maybe things will look different in the morning. Thanks you both again for helping.
 
Posts: 15 | Location: Massachusetts in the USA | Registered: March 17, 2012
Picture of Peter Kaszubski
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I will describe as Swiss made pocket watch
it will be hard to estimate the jewels count with out taking the dial off as for now I will say 11-15 jewels
go and search ebay for movement that looks like yours and you will have some rough idea on what to ask for it.
 
Posts: 4395 | Location: Arizona in the USA | Registered: July 23, 2011
IHC Member 1291
Picture of Buster Beck
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If you are a seller, or anyone truly interested in horology, you may want to become a member on IHC185. We have an auction forum, a for sale forum, a gold forum, and a parts forum available to "members only" to buy and/or sell with no fees for anyone. Member dues are $12 per year, and that is it.

With some of the auction sites charging up to 20% now to sell, many of our members sell at about a 10% discount to other members and still make a good margin Smile

We have some rare and fine watches being sold currently and the usual lower end also. There is something for everyone here and its a great place to do business as we are all member/friends and trust one another. Another thing is, we know watches whether we are buying or selling.

Another great forum that we have on IHC185 for "members only" is our "Pitfalls" forum. There we discuss watches and items being traded in the market places, tactics used, practices, and descriptions of the items, the "Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" Eek

We also have a forum for buying and selling all things not horological in nature open to our "members only".

regards,
bb
 
Posts: 6376 | Location: Texas in the USA | Registered: July 27, 2009
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I believe it's an Agassiz. The plate layout is fairly distinct.

 
Posts: 486 | Location: Arizona in the USA | Registered: March 13, 2010
IHC Life Member
Picture of David Abbe
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Kevin is right, this is an Agassiz and it would be valued in the $5-700.00 range in good condition and in a gold case. I am certain that it is a 17 jewel movement of the highest quality.
To determine the case material we would need a picture of the case markings . . .

 
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007
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CP Rail authorized the use of a 21 jewel Bedford watch, here is a copy of the authorization, I believe it was first shown by either Lorne Walyshin. or Larry Buchan.

 
Posts: 1278 | Location: British Columbia in Canada | Registered: May 19, 2008
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Here is the later Bedforde named watch on Bills list. A Unitas calibre?

 
Posts: 486 | Location: Arizona in the USA | Registered: March 13, 2010
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Dial. Thanks to original poster.

 
Posts: 486 | Location: Arizona in the USA | Registered: March 13, 2010
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Kevin,
Very nice I had not seen a Bedford.
Bill
 
Posts: 1278 | Location: British Columbia in Canada | Registered: May 19, 2008
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Hello
Sorry I haven't been back this week to look at replies. Too many Dr's app't's.
Here is one of the better pictures for the case markings
Thank you all so much for the information. Now, at least I have something to run with.
 
Posts: 15 | Location: Massachusetts in the USA | Registered: March 17, 2012
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My picture didn't come through

 
Posts: 15 | Location: Massachusetts in the USA | Registered: March 17, 2012
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Frances,

Extremely large images cannot be viewed by those with slower internet connections or smaller screens. Due to those considerations and to avoid overloading storage capacity our system is set up to not accept poster size images.

>> Proper size: 640 X 480 Pixels
>> Resolution: approximately 72 Pixels/Inch



Click here: How to Photograph Your Watches and Clocks

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Debbie

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Posts: 5386 | Location: Northern Ohio in the U.S.A. | Registered: December 04, 2002
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