March 10, 2008, 17:37
David AbbeRegina Waltham ??? Whutisthis!?
I am looking but remain clueless! Looks similar to a Waltham, Elgin or Illinois made for a Canadian and named Regina! Whutisthis!?
March 10, 2008, 17:39
David AbbeRegina Dial 3-footed American style
March 10, 2008, 17:41
David AbbeAll inside a beautiful 16s A.W.C.Co Coin Case (typical for Canadian watches!)
March 10, 2008, 19:20
David AbbeThe main plate under the dial has another serial number with a cross. But the Dial is a three foot with US type locking screws.
March 10, 2008, 19:27
David AbbeInteresting marking on the dial
March 10, 2008, 20:14
Sheila GilbertI found that in Roy Ehrhardt's Trademark Book, on page 36, under "Grade names found on Walthams" is the name Regina. So this is getting a little more interesting huh?
March 10, 2008, 20:27
Sheila GilbertAnd
There is also a Co called
P. W Ellis & Co.
31 Wellington St.
Toronto Ont.
That carries that name too
But
So does
Omega
U S Agency Omega Watch Co
21 Maiden Lane
New York
and
North American Watch Co
Mansfield OH
So what do ya think?
March 10, 2008, 20:37
David AbbeGood tracking Sheila. It is the dial and movement that really throws me off, but the plate cuts are a little different. But then I hadda wife named Regina once too . . . she was Dutch. Seriously, I will give this a thorough cleaning and check all the parts and numbers. More pics., maybe.
March 10, 2008, 20:52
Thomas A. OverfieldHi,
Let me quote a time when a related question was asked previously:
"The Regina name was used in Canada by the Omega Watch Co. I believe that they carried the same serial numbers as the Omega named watches..."
Thus the swiss cross you see on the movement as well.
Best,
Tom O.
March 10, 2008, 21:37
Sheila GilbertMy bet was on the Omega too! especially with the cross present.
Just adding to the mystery, fun to confuse sometimes.
A little heckle helps the blood to flow.
Looking forward to the pictures.
March 10, 2008, 23:01
David AbbeYup, I just put it in the spin cleaner, and while disassembling it I saw a cal.19 Omega rooted Waltham/Elgin/Omega W&S with the neat self clutching Swiss mainspring and just enough fussing with the plate cuts so that without my glasses I would mistake it for "Made in USA".
March 11, 2008, 02:07
David AbbeHere it is all done; Typical . . . hadda mess with the Balance spring cause the swiss made them out of spaghetti, and it's a double roller where the last guy who took a #3 horseshoe file after the winding wheels also had it about 30 deg. out of beat. Now it's swinging like a champ . . . Whew, a 23 Jewel 18s Mod 92. Waltham is much easier!

March 11, 2008, 02:11
David AbbeThe Dial survived pretty well, must be those long Canadian winters again. The A.W.C.Co Coin case is extraordinary! Great watch for a 7 Jewel, but still needs better finishing to measure up to our "domestic's of the 1902-05 time frame.