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Just acquired Abbott Sure Time

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August 19, 2011, 15:58
Roger Stephens
Just acquired Abbott Sure Time
17jewels,adjusted s/n980343 in a beautiful keystone 25yr.case.Sure not much info.avaiable on this.Was wondering if it looks original or not.I can not find any pics.of dials,hands or cases.Anyone having any info and comments,good or bad,would be appreciated. Roger

Bezel on

August 19, 2011, 15:59
Roger Stephens
Bezel off

Bezel off 1

August 19, 2011, 16:01
Roger Stephens
Inside back cover&Dust cover

inside cover&dust cover

August 19, 2011, 16:02
Roger Stephens
Case back

case back1

August 19, 2011, 16:04
Roger Stephens
Movt

Movt shot

August 19, 2011, 16:16
William D. White
Roger,

The movement is a 16 size Keystone Howard. That's all I know.

William
August 19, 2011, 17:20
Buster Beck
I agree that it is a Howard Keystone. I suppose it is a private label watch for Abbott Sure Time. The no seconds register is interesting !! It is a hunting case mvmt. hmmmm.....

Nice pick Roger !

regards,
bb
August 19, 2011, 20:40
Richard M. Jones
My understanding is that these movements were deliberately fitted with no seconds hand and were a lower cost way to use up Waltham movements that were made up for Howard and for some reason went back to Waltham when Keystone bought Howard. I don't know if it is true or not but it sounds fairly reasonable.


Deacon
August 19, 2011, 20:44
Richard M. Jones
I forgot to mention that metal dials were used to save money on the Abbott and yours looks original


Deacon
August 19, 2011, 21:36
Roger Stephens
Thanks everyone,I had misplaced my fat book and now have found it{thank God}It states Abbott watches was made by E.Howard Watch Co.{Keystone} and they are mod.1905 series 3 with circular damaskeening adj.3 pos.I don't think it is a Waltham built movt.as the regulator is a Howard regulator being the jewel screws are vertical and not horizontal such as were Waltham regulators.Anyway it is a nice running watch.Thanks everyone Roger