The number 3 on the movement, along with the serial number.

I have not been able to find anything on a Waltham movement with the number 3, but the Waltham database has it clearly listed.

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KICK KICK KICK MYSELF, MISSED THIS ONE.

SN 4551985

Sheila - It's a model 1883, grade 3, 18 size, 11 jewel, unadjusted, SW/PS from 1891. From what I know, not all Walthams were given grade "names". Some were assigned a grade number as this one. The movement appears to be a basic model 1883, but the damascening is really pretty! There is a plate screw missing to the left of the serial number, though. Hope this helps.

Mary Ann,
Thank you. I had looked it up on the Waltham database, but had never seen or read about this one before. Especially one listed as Name 3, and Grade 3. (As posted in the Waltham database)

I thought the damaskeening was pretty neat too!

I was also wondering if anyone ever talked about the name/grade being listed on a movement before. ???

I missed the auction so it's not mine, but would like more information on the name/grades being on the movement. That's a new one on me!!!

Sheila - Waltham did mark a lot of movements with the name/grade such as Vanguard, Appleton Tracy, P.S. Bartlett, Royal, Riverside, Wm. Ellery, Crescent Street, etc. A few had number grades such as 645 and 845 (primarily railroad grade/approved). Others just had American Waltham Watch Co., for instance, on the movement and you had to determine the model number and grade by the serial number and attributes.

Mary Ann,
Sometimes my brain doesn't help me to get my question out quite right.

Let me explain this a little better.

I know the names, and I know of numbers, however I never remember seeing a one digit number on a Waltham movement before. Especially the number 3. So is it like any other numbered/named watch?

So is it similar to a simple numbered movement like my Elgin 349 below?

(Sorry have no numbered Waltham's)

Sorry, Sheila. My little OCD brain has trouble thinking outside the box sometimes. Let me try it again. I think I know what you are asking.

Waltham never put a single digit grade number on a movement, such as your example. I believe in this situation the grade 3 in the database is more of a factory designation. By and large most grades had a name and those that were numbers were three or four digits long and only a few actually went on the movement ( i.e. grade 645/845).

Mary Ann,
Thank you. I didn't know of any 1 digit numbers, but sure wondered if anyone else had known of them. This was a new one on me. Like you, I only knew of the 3 digit type.

Thank you for your reply, I feel more comfortable about not missing something I should have known.