Today I bought a lot of 10 watches from our local market (Istanbul)
One is very interesting because he has the 14K marking but the seller has asked a non solid gold price because he bought it from Ebay as gold filled price.
On the interior of the dust cover there is another 14K marking. This markings seems to be made by sparking machine or low quality laser marking machine.

Brand name Elgin is marked under the balance.

Any idea about this watch? Thank you.
Bulent

ELGIN_26251418_G.M.WHEELER.doc (340 Kb, 235 downloads)

Here's what Waynes Elgin site says about your watch:

Search Results For "26251418"
Serial Number SN Range Quanty Name Year grade size code jewels Adj/reg/etc.
-------------- -------- ------ ---- ---- ----- ---- ------ ------ ------------
26251418 26250001 2000 GMW 1923 452* 12s o3n10p 17j A3P


grade total runs first yr last yr class size code jewels Adj/name
----- ----- ----- -------- ------- ----- ---- ------ ------ ----------
452 69000 66 1917 1927 ? 12s o3n10p 17j A3P / GMW

(*) notes on grade 452: 14s dial first 12s model 10

Looks like it's a 12 size G. M. Wheeler model, Elgin, 17j, model 452, made in 1923, adjusted in 3 positions

Regard! Mark

Thank you Mark. I have already this information. On the movement side there is no problem.

The marking on the back cover seems original.
"PENDANT PAT.OCT.9.17 14K 1120764"
On the inside of the dust cover Hadsworth 14 KARAT is market. I suppose this marking is not original. Also this side of the dust cover is not brillant like gold. Do you know the meaning of Hadsworth? The first letter may not be H.

Thank you.
Bulent

Bulent, That case name is Wadsworth, and that is a casemaker. The scripted "W" letter is so artistic that it actually looks like an "H".

I will leave the judgement of the accuracy of the 14 Karat Mark to the experts, and I hope the name coreection helps you.

I have owned many of these cases and still have one i would say it's 14kt gold.. that marking is right this is the way most of the 10 and 12 size cases made by wadsworth were marked.. Open the dust cover and flex it a little if gold it will flex easy and be soft if gold filled it will be very rigid and not flex..

I agree with Samie. Looks like a Wadsworth mark on a 14k gold case. Just be careful when doing the flex test.

Leon

Early on Wadsworth marked their gold cases 14kt us assay later on the 14kt and 18kt gold ones were marked like your case and the gold filled ones were marked 14kt gold filled like the Case Edward posted...

Bulent, The answer is simple when you think about it. All of these cases were marked for their material content as gold filled or the Karat rating of solid gold.

This case is only marked 14 Karat. I would be very confident that it it a solid gold case because it DOES NOT STATE OTHERWISE.

quote:

Thank you Mark. I have already this information. On the movement side there is no problem.

Sorry about that. You didn't mention that in your opening post.

Regards! Mark

Bulent, I agree entirely with David's last post....The case is 14k solid gold....the dust cover is also 14k solid gold....

You have found yourself a nice 12s Elgin, Mdl. 10, Gr 452 GMW, way to go....

Regards,
Jerry

As everyone else has said the case is absolutely solid gold.

the style of the letters etc is consistient with all of the other cases like this I have seen

Bob

Thanks to all; Mark, David, Samie, Leon, Edward, Jerry and Robert.

Technology has put the last point. Somebody told me about a company doing metal analyses by laser for $20. I did make. Result attached.

Thank you again,

Bulent

That's 14k gold all the way....

Regards,
Jerry