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Picture of Eugene Buffard
posted February 20, 2013 18:51
Here it is. The guy will take $150. This is something I'm not to familiar with.

How rare is this does any one else have an original.

 
Posts: 3326 | Location: Illinois in the USA | Registered: July 06, 2010
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Picture of Eugene Buffard
posted February 20, 2013 18:51
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posted February 20, 2013 18:52
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Posts: 3326 | Location: Illinois in the USA | Registered: July 06, 2010
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posted February 20, 2013 18:53
Lindell this is the same one I showed you a year ago.

 
Posts: 3326 | Location: Illinois in the USA | Registered: July 06, 2010
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Picture of Eugene Buffard
posted February 20, 2013 19:00
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Posts: 3326 | Location: Illinois in the USA | Registered: July 06, 2010
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posted February 20, 2013 19:44
Well, it is definitely an interesting piece Gene. I'm not too up on Brotherhood of Railroad Trainmen things or their value. I just think it looks cool. I like that type of turn of the century artwork. In other words...I'd buy it. Regards, Brad
 
Posts: 956 | Location: Wenatchee, Washington in the USA | Registered: December 14, 2010
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posted February 20, 2013 20:11
What size is this Gene ? Is it a 8x10" or a poster sized piece ?

I don't believe it would be worth it if it were a small size, it may be worth it if it were poster sized, maybe.

It would be a nice RRoaders "man cave" item perhaps. The UTU [United Transportation Union] took over the BRT in 1969. There aren't many RRoaders still around that paid BRT monthly union dues, except me Big Grin

So it is a piece of history. These [if poster sized] would be found in your RR depots where crews gathered to man trains. There were spaces set aside for union communication on bulletin boards where the union was allowed to post notices and messages to different members or the brotherhood as a whole. "Instant messaging/computer access/facebook/tweet/twitter/myspace/apps. etc" were not known about back then nor were cell phones available. These would have been like a beacon to draw the trainman's attention and to the side of the posters would be notices and treatises newly posted. So while waiting for your train to show up you could browse your union bulletin board for the latest news and be up to date with new events, rules, strategies, promotions, etc. !!

With a price tag dangling on this of $189.00, if it is poster sized, I would feel better about spending $100 for it, but only if it was what I wanted.

regards,
bb
 
Posts: 6376 | Location: Texas in the USA | Registered: July 27, 2009
posted February 20, 2013 20:23
Size? Looks like an 8 X 10 to me.

Anybody else want to hazard a guess?
 
Posts: 301 | Location: Ogallala, Nebraska in the USA | Registered: August 27, 2005
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posted February 20, 2013 21:22
Life's short Gene. If you like but it brother.
 
Posts: 379 | Location: Charlotte, North Carolina in the USA | Registered: August 10, 2012
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posted February 20, 2013 21:53
It is poster size. I offered him $100. He said the best he'd go is $150. It has a period frame. But the bottom edge is messed up.

This is the second year that it has been in an antique shop in Texas.

Maybe next year he will drop the price.
 
Posts: 3326 | Location: Illinois in the USA | Registered: July 06, 2010
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posted February 21, 2013 00:56
Same Poster available on Ebay as a repro
 
Posts: 232 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: April 26, 2010
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posted February 21, 2013 08:19
This one is an original lithograph that has the copyright stamp on the bottom corner.


That was made 100 years ago.
 
Posts: 3326 | Location: Illinois in the USA | Registered: July 06, 2010
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posted February 21, 2013 11:40
Does any one else have an original. Or seen an original.

That is my main question. I buy any thing that is unusual or not many of.

$150' is not a lot of money.

I would rather have this than a common Bunn Special.
 
Posts: 3326 | Location: Illinois in the USA | Registered: July 06, 2010
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posted February 21, 2013 12:09
Hello Eugene:

At $150, it would be a bargain, and I wouldn't hesitate buying it, as it looks to be in good condition. There are two variations of this lithograph one made in the 1890s, and this one more modern in the 20th century, I have both of them and will post some pictures later showing the differences between the two.

Larry
 
Posts: 3370 | Location: Okotoks Alberta Canada | Registered: November 22, 2002
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posted February 21, 2013 12:15
Thanks Larry that is what I thought also.
 
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posted February 21, 2013 14:37
Contrary to what Buster said about these lithographs being displayed on bulletin boards in the workplace, they were the prized centerpiece of the Lodge meeting place, called "The Chart" they served as an important component of the initiation ritual to the individual lodges, as shown in this photo of the Officers of Lodge 496 "Thames River"of New London, Connecticut chartered September 24, 1893 and represented trainmen in freight and passenger service on the New York, New Haven, and Hartford Railroad, that operated from 1872 until 1968 and served the states of Connecticut, New York, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts with large terminals in Boston and New York City, with New London located midway between the two terminals. I will start a new thread under Tales of the Rails describing the evolution of these interesting lithographs.

Larry

 
Posts: 3370 | Location: Okotoks Alberta Canada | Registered: November 22, 2002
posted February 21, 2013 15:21
OK Larry - Nice picture - I wonder what watch each of those fine looking gentlemen is carrying?
 
Posts: 301 | Location: Ogallala, Nebraska in the USA | Registered: August 27, 2005
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posted February 21, 2013 15:34
Yo North Rail !!

You could be correct and probably are about this exact "lithograph". I was in & out of both places, the depot and the lodge hall, but.....

In our depots and crew rooms or ready rooms down here in Texas Smile

We had bulletin boards set aside in the crew rooms and/or hallways where "like" posters were displayed along with pertinent union data and they always had different BRT colored posters that would be changed periodically, perhaps 2-3 times per year. These posters always displayed union topics & themes, trains, families, and scenic scenes such as this one etc.

This particular "lithograph" or copy of, perhaps wasn't seen in the depots, I couldn't testify as to which/what/where/who/and when, as I was generally too busy with socializing or preparing for my work day. And I couldn't today pick out which ones "exactly" were there and weren't there.

As to value, to me, it would have little value. As to resale value, I don't know since I am not a collector or seller of RR trivia etc. But my advise to pay $100 is still a good price for either venue.

regards,
bb

 
Posts: 6376 | Location: Texas in the USA | Registered: July 27, 2009
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posted February 22, 2013 11:43
Buster: we had lots of union bulletin boards at our booking out and in rooms at all our facilities on the CPR that I went to at-home and away from home terminals all over Alberta, British Columbia, and Saskatchewan, and as secretary-treasurer of our local division of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers for over 20 years I was responsible for the one we had in Calgary at the Alyth diesel shops and other shop track bulletin boards around the terminal, and kept them up to date posting monthly meeting notices, local rules, resolutions, seniority lists, social events, and other brotherhood circulars, but as far as hundred-year-old lithographs. I have never seen any on company property, and first became aware of their existence in museums like the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania in Strasburg.

Joe: It would be interesting to know what kind of watches these well-dressed young Lodge officers were carrying, I would venture to guess a lot of them would be carrying Waltham's from Massachusetts one of the states they more than likely worked into going to Boston. Photo New London, Connecticut's Amtrak station 106 miles from Boston

Larry

 
Posts: 3370 | Location: Okotoks Alberta Canada | Registered: November 22, 2002
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posted February 19, 2014 16:25
Larry I did end up buying this one 3rd year was the charm!

My wife was happy that I finally bought it. REALLY. Smile Boy I Sure Love her!

I'll look in the other forum to see if you wrote any more on it.
 
Posts: 3326 | Location: Illinois in the USA | Registered: July 06, 2010
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posted February 19, 2014 19:36
Hello Eugene:

Good to hear that you bought the B of RT lithograph, when I'm feeling better I will e-mail you a description from the ritual that goes into detail about the scenes illustrated in the chart.
I have inserted an advertisement from MC Lily a regalia business who supplied magic lanterns and hand colored glass slides to use at night time for lodge initiation ceremonies.

Larry

 
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