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WHAT is a Hamilton 922 23J 12s "Secometer???

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February 15, 2012, 17:08
David Abbe
WHAT is a Hamilton 922 23J 12s "Secometer???
Deacon won this Hamilton 23J s/n 3014270 "Secometer" We both looked at it and have the same questions to the club;
What" are the production numbers for a 922 "Secometer"
Who is Edward E. Chase, from Lynn Mass ret. 10/1/31?


February 15, 2012, 19:38
Tom Brown
He was the Chief of the Fire Department from 1912 to 1931

chase

February 15, 2012, 19:44
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Now Deacon you need to print out a copy of the picture of the fire chief to go with the watch.
February 15, 2012, 20:23
David Abbe
The "No.62"-Sterling Silver, secometer (with) applied Gold numerals" is illustrated in the Hamilton 1935 Catalog of dials. This could have been a special factory order.

A beauty any way you look at it. The dial has survived incredibly well.
February 16, 2012, 11:14
Joe Straub
Did the secometer rotate clockwise or counterclockwise?
February 16, 2012, 11:18
David Abbe
Clockwise. The question remains; How did a 23 Jewel top of the line Hamilton end up with a Secometer dial? How many were made that way?
February 16, 2012, 11:26
Ethan Lipsig
I have a solid gold 904 with a secometer dial, surely original, but they are much more common on 912s, of which I have one, but I also have one on a 918.
February 16, 2012, 22:34
Tom Brown
Your Welcome!
February 16, 2012, 22:41
Brad Richardson
I see them all the time on 910's and 912's. And Tom, I thought that was very interesting that you found a picture to go with the watch. Thanks. regards, Brad
February 17, 2012, 00:24
Tom Brown
Thanks Brad, there are just certain people that ask for me by name to research their watches for them and then when I report what I find there is no acknowledgement that I found what they wanted, I guess when you are the hired help that is how it goes.
February 17, 2012, 15:50
Richard M. Jones
Hey Tom, thank you very much for the research. I just looked in and once again you did a nice job. Thanks to all who joined in on the discussion. I have carried the watch since last night and it seems to run very well.


Deacon
February 17, 2012, 17:35
Lindell V. Riddle

A very special THANK YOU to Tom Brown for all you do for all of us. Tom, your research efforts are truly amazing and I speak for every IHC Member in expressing our collective gratitude.

Deacon, yours is the only surviving silver Secometer dial with gold applied numerals I have ever seen, a very special item! Unfortunately, since the Secometer Dial was an extra-cost accessory there would be no way to come up with production numbers. Your watch is so unusual, especially with both Masonic and Firefighter connections it is without question a one-of-a-kind item.

Now, here is some "Hamilton Secometer" information and an advertisement.

Click for Hamilton 912 Digital Question topic.

Lindell

Wink

February 17, 2012, 18:01
Eric Unselt
Gorgeous piece, Deacon.

Dave, how much room is needed under the dial to accomodate the numbered seconds wheel?
February 18, 2012, 13:51
Peter Drago
Hello to all,

That 922 must really be one of a kind, I guess I'll never be able to have it in my collection.

Since we are on the subject, here is a picture of my "secometers". Unfortunately the dial of the Illinois is spotted, I tried to clean it but with no result.
Does anybody know if there were similar watches made by other companies?

Peter


February 18, 2012, 16:17
Peter Drago
Eric,
I hope Dave will forgive me for butting in on this one, but since I have the answer to your question close at hand I will save him some time.
Here is a picture of the movement (Hamilton 912)and the dial. As you can see they machined a round depression in the back of the metal dial to make space for the second disc. It is also interesting to note that they printed "Secometer" on the dial thus giving legitimacy to the name. I think I red somewhere, correct me if I'm wrong, that only Hamilton could use the name.

Regards,
Peter


February 18, 2012, 17:29
Eric Unselt
Thanks Peter.

So - no difference at all to the movement, except for a possible stubbier 4th pinion.
February 18, 2012, 23:13
David Abbe
It had to be custom ordered and made. Mr Chase must have been quite a Fire Man! Friend, neighbor and IHC185'er Mike Carroll (originally from Boston area) says it is the "Luck of the Irish"!