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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...geName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

I just had to buy this to see what I could find out about this watch. and its owner. Will keep you posted
Aloha Scott
 
Posts: 293 | Location: California City, California USA | Registered: May 05, 2005
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Scott

The link doesn't appear to be any good. If you would like me to start searching I can with some info.

Tom
 
Posts: 5107 | Location: New Mexico in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2007
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Aloha Tom

Try the link now, and yes by all means

Mahalo Scott
 
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Scott

Thanks, I will see what I find.

You got a great deal on that, it would be nice if the watch has some sort of engraving with his name.

I look forward to seeing what you got, if I had seen it we would have fought each other over it.

Tom
 
Posts: 5107 | Location: New Mexico in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2007
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Let us know when you receive it if the watch actually was made in 1862/63 or earlier. Most veterans of the War Between the States lived until the late 1890s to 1920s, depending on how old they were when they enlisted or were drafted. Some even lived into the 1930s. Most all would have acquired at least several watches or more made after the war years, up to the 1930s.
 
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Name: Emory Washburn Jr
Residence: Cambridge, Massachusetts
Occupation: Student
Age at Enlistment: 23
Enlistment Date: 26 May 1862
Rank at enlistment: Private
State Served: Massachusetts
Survived the War?: Yes
Service Record: Promoted to Full 1st Lieutenant on 25 Aug 1862.
Enlisted in Company B, Massachusetts 4th Infantry Battalion on 27 May 1862.
Mustered out on 31 May 1862 at Boston, MA.
Commissioned an officer in Company S, Massachusetts 39th Infantry Regiment on 04 Sep 1862.
Mustered out on 24 Jan 1863.
Birth Date: abt 1839
Sources: Massachusetts Soldiers, Sailors and Marines in the Civil War
Photo courtesy of Massachusetts Commandery of MOLLUS

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I will have to do a little more digging but it is looking like his father Emory Sr. was Governor of Massachusetts from 1854 t0 1855.

I found in the Cambridge Census for 1850 that Emory the governor had a son Emory Jr. born about 1839.

This is getting more interesting the more I look. Scott I will gladly pay you what you got this for!

This is Emory Sr.

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Posts: 5107 | Location: New Mexico in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2007
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Just a note, it appears both Emory Sr. & Jr. also used the spelling Emery.

Scott still don't know if your Emery is the son of the gov., but the gov.'s son died at the age of 45 in Chicago in May 1885, he never married & was a lawyer but according to his obit. he practiced little law. Emery Sr. was also a lawyer.

Also found the gov.'s obit but neither obit mentions their family at all, just the deceased.
 
Posts: 5107 | Location: New Mexico in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2007
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Mahalo Tom
Looks like you nailed it. Pictures are a dead ringer. It also looks like the good Governor was looking after his son. I will be sending this off to Chris Abell For any required maintenance. I will keep you posted.
Aloha And Mahalo Scott
 
Posts: 293 | Location: California City, California USA | Registered: May 05, 2005
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Scott

If you would like me to email you the stuff I found let me know.

I like the looks of that watch with the gold dial & the eagle on it. You sure got a treasure for almost nothing.

I will be interested to see more of the watch. I have one very similar in style that belonged to a Doctor in the Civil War & it dates to that time.

Tom
 
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Thought I would post two last thing, the obits for the father & then the son.

I thought it strange that neither obit lists survivors but maybe that was how they did it back them. I do know that Emery Sr.'s wife out lived both her husband & son yet she is not mentioned by name in either.

obit1
 
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Emery Jr.

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I think that his rise from private to first lieutenant in just three months is a good indication that his father was the governor or someone with equal weight. Promotions tended to come a bit faster especially in units that were in heavy combat, but he would have to had 7 promotions in three months to get from Private to First Lieutenant and the from what I have seen it appears that his 4th Massachusetts Infantry Battalion did not see any action. Also, his second assignment to 39th Massachusetts likewise saw no action while he was with it (they were on guard duty around Washington at that time).

Here are the ranks between Private and First Lieutenant in the Union Army during the War Between The States:
Private
Corporal
Sergeant
QuarterMaster Sergeant
First Sergeant
Sergeant-Major
Second Lieutenant
First Lieutenant
 
Posts: 874 | Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA | Registered: September 20, 2004
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Well the Shadow box arrived in good shape the scotch tape that was used to hold the backing together has yellowed over time so it appears to have been in the box for some time now. The watch is a 16 size key wind key set the case is silver. Case # 58133 the initials EW fancy script are inscribed within the cartouche T. Bohringer Dresden written in script on the cuvette the movement is shown on page 448 upper left in the 2010 complete price guide (Le Coulter) the dial is gold with applied gold roman numerals the minute hand is plum the hour and second hands are blue there is an engraved republic eagle standing on a mountain I will be sending it off to Chris for Repair and hopefully he can take some pictures for us
 
Posts: 293 | Location: California City, California USA | Registered: May 05, 2005
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I was wondering how the watch came out after you sent it to Chris?
 
Posts: 523 | Location: Northern California in the USA | Registered: November 23, 2008
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I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME PHOTOS. THANKS
 
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Aloha All

I don't know what is taking Chris so long,I must have sent that watch to him at least twenty three to twenty four hours ago Roll Eyes Wink

Aloha Scott
 
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Pictures please. I can not stand the suspense! This eves dropping is killing me Roll Eyes
 
Posts: 46 | Location: Decatur, Michigan in the USA | Registered: August 01, 2009
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Well I called Scott and told him he said to post the pictures here, as you can see in the photo, re cased in a most interesting way. Someone has filed the pallet and escape bridges away to fit it in, then carefully glued the movement into the case, from what I can see also seen a need to pull a good length of hairspring back that was extra to requirements the list goes on!

 
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