Internet Horology Club 185
Elgin Grade 71

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February 15, 2019, 15:30
Ryan Schoenike
Elgin Grade 71
Recently I won a Elgin Grade 71 Model 1 and I am having a hard time locating information on it Complete Price Guide To Pocket Watches. Looking to see if anyone is able to point out where I can locate that info. The watch is a size 6s with 17 jewels, serial number 3006895. Case is 18k multi colored gold with a 1/4 carat diamond on the front cover and a 1/10th carat diamond on the back cover. Thank you for any input you have!




Ryan Schoenike
February 15, 2019, 15:31
Ryan Schoenike
Back cover




Ryan Schoenike
February 15, 2019, 15:32
Ryan Schoenike
Movement




Ryan Schoenike
February 15, 2019, 15:33
Ryan Schoenike
Dial




Ryan Schoenike
February 15, 2019, 16:05
John Watkins
Check out Wayne Schlitt's Elgin Watch Collectors Site. I'm not an Elgin collector but have always found it helpful.
February 15, 2019, 16:21
Claude Griffith
grade total runs first yr last yr class size code jewels Adj/name
----- ----- ----- -------- ------- ----- ---- ------ ------ ----------
71 5000 4 1877 1888 49 6s h3n1l 17j Adj

(*) notes on grade 71: first 6s 17 jewel # Elgin MCs say some were 8s


Class 49: 6s HC 3/4 lever model 1
71 5000 made 17j Adj Elgin MCs say some were 8s
February 15, 2019, 19:01
Melvin Siedman
Grade: 71
Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 3006895
Grade: 71
Model: 1
Class: 49
Estimated Production Year: 1889
Run Quantity: 1,000
Total Production: 1,000
Size: 6s
Jewels: 17j
Jewel Material: Ruby
Jewel Setting: Screw-Set
Movement Configuration: Hunting
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Barrel: Going
Train: Quick
Regulator: Plain
Adjusted: Yes
Railroad Grade: No
U.S. Patents: 77078
Data Research: c.1950 Elgin Serial List

Research Note: #3006659: Verified as 6-Size [*****]
February 15, 2019, 21:05
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Well I can see we have two different totals. One source says 5000 and one says 1000. The Elgin resource link on this site says 5000 total. The other source says a total of 1000. I found that the online database says 1000. I don't know the source of the 1000 total listed here but I don't trust the online database as anyone can contribute any info they wish on that site and a lot of bad information is on there. But anyway you know that either 1000 or 5000 total which for Elgin both are low production runs.

Harry
February 16, 2019, 07:55
Dr. Debbie Irvine

Gorgeous movement and case!

Smile

February 16, 2019, 09:29
Buster Beck
A real Beauty !!


regards,
bb
February 16, 2019, 09:32
Nathan Moore
Harry - The Grade 71 was produced in four separate runs. The first three runs are Size 8 (Total Production: 4,000) and the last run is Size 6 (Total Production: 1,000).
February 16, 2019, 23:26
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Thanks Nathan. Man that is weird to have the same grade in to different sizes. But that may be common for Elgin I am not that familiar with Elgin. Beautiful watch!

Harry
February 17, 2019, 02:34
Ryan Schoenike
That clears it up. Thanks for everyone's help and comments!


Ryan Schoenike