February 15, 2019, 15:30
Ryan SchoenikeElgin Grade 71
Recently I won a Elgin Grade 71 Model 1 and I am having a hard time locating information on it Complete Price Guide To Pocket Watches. Looking to see if anyone is able to point out where I can locate that info. The watch is a size 6s with 17 jewels, serial number 3006895. Case is 18k multi colored gold with a 1/4 carat diamond on the front cover and a 1/10th carat diamond on the back cover. Thank you for any input you have!
February 15, 2019, 16:05
John WatkinsCheck out Wayne Schlitt's
Elgin Watch Collectors Site. I'm not an Elgin collector but have always found it helpful.
February 15, 2019, 16:21
Claude Griffithgrade total runs first yr last yr class size code jewels Adj/name
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71 5000 4 1877 1888 49 6s h3n1l 17j Adj
(*) notes on grade 71: first 6s 17 jewel # Elgin MCs say some were 8s
Class 49: 6s HC 3/4 lever model 1
71 5000 made 17j Adj Elgin MCs say some were 8s
February 15, 2019, 19:01
Melvin SiedmanGrade: 71
Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 3006895
Grade: 71
Model: 1
Class: 49
Estimated Production Year: 1889
Run Quantity: 1,000
Total Production: 1,000
Size: 6s
Jewels: 17j
Jewel Material: Ruby
Jewel Setting: Screw-Set
Movement Configuration: Hunting
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Barrel: Going
Train: Quick
Regulator: Plain
Adjusted: Yes
Railroad Grade: No
U.S. Patents: 77078
Data Research: c.1950 Elgin Serial List
Research Note: #3006659: Verified as 6-Size [*****]
February 15, 2019, 21:05
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.Well I can see we have two different totals. One source says 5000 and one says 1000. The Elgin resource link on this site says 5000 total. The other source says a total of 1000. I found that the online database says 1000. I don't know the source of the 1000 total listed here but I don't trust the online database as anyone can contribute any info they wish on that site and a lot of bad information is on there. But anyway you know that either 1000 or 5000 total which for Elgin both are low production runs.
Harry
February 16, 2019, 09:32
Nathan MooreHarry - The Grade 71 was produced in four separate runs. The first three runs are Size 8 (Total Production: 4,000) and the last run is Size 6 (Total Production: 1,000).
February 16, 2019, 23:26
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.Thanks Nathan. Man that is weird to have the same grade in to different sizes. But that may be common for Elgin I am not that familiar with Elgin. Beautiful watch!
Harry
February 17, 2019, 02:34
Ryan SchoenikeThat clears it up. Thanks for everyone's help and comments!