February 15, 2019, 15:30
Ryan SchoenikeElgin Grade 71
Recently I won a Elgin Grade 71 Model 1 and I am having a hard time locating information on it Complete Price Guide To Pocket Watches. Looking to see if anyone is able to point out where I can locate that info. The watch is a size 6s with 17 jewels, serial number 3006895. Case is 18k multi colored gold with a 1/4 carat diamond on the front cover and a 1/10th carat diamond on the back cover. Thank you for any input you have!
February 15, 2019, 16:05
John WatkinsCheck out Wayne Schlitt's  
Elgin Watch Collectors Site. I'm not an Elgin collector but have always found it helpful.
February 15, 2019, 16:21
Claude Griffithgrade total runs   first yr  last yr class  size  code   jewels Adj/name
----- ----- -----  --------  ------- -----  ----  ------ ------ ----------
 71    5000   4        1877     1888   49     6s  h3n1l     17j Adj
(*) notes on grade 71:  first 6s 17 jewel  # Elgin MCs say some were  8s
Class 49:         6s HC 3/4 lever model 1
     71       5000 made 17j Adj  Elgin MCs say some were  8s
February 15, 2019, 19:01
Melvin SiedmanGrade: 71
Manufacturer:	Elgin	
Manufacturer Location:	Elgin, Illinois	
Movement Serial Number:	3006895	
Grade:	71	
Model:	1	
Class:	49	
Estimated Production Year:	1889	
Run Quantity:	1,000	
Total Production:	1,000	
Size:	6s	
Jewels:	17j	
Jewel Material:	Ruby	
Jewel Setting:	Screw-Set	
Movement Configuration:	Hunting	
Movement Finish:	Nickel	
Movement Setting:	Lever	
Plate:	3/4 Plate	
Barrel:	Going	
Train:	Quick	
Regulator:	Plain	
Adjusted:	Yes	
Railroad Grade:	No	
U.S. Patents:	77078	
Data Research:	c.1950 Elgin Serial List
Research Note: #3006659: Verified as 6-Size [*****]
February 15, 2019, 21:05
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.Well I can see we have two different totals. One source says 5000 and one says 1000. The Elgin resource link on this site says 5000 total. The other source says a total of 1000. I found that the online database says 1000. I don't know the source of the 1000 total listed here but I don't trust the online database as anyone can contribute any info they wish on that site and a lot of bad information is on there. But anyway you know that either 1000 or 5000 total which for Elgin both are low production runs.
Harry
February 16, 2019, 09:32
Nathan MooreHarry - The Grade 71 was produced in four separate runs. The first three runs are Size 8 (Total Production: 4,000) and the last run is Size 6 (Total Production: 1,000).
February 16, 2019, 23:26
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.Thanks Nathan. Man that is weird to have the same grade in to different sizes. But that may be common for Elgin I am not that familiar with Elgin. Beautiful watch!
Harry
February 17, 2019, 02:34
Ryan SchoenikeThat clears it up. Thanks for everyone's help and comments!