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Reproduction Ball Dials?

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September 16, 2006, 17:58
James Greg Wooldridge
Reproduction Ball Dials?
I just purchased a Ball 18s 21 Jewel 999. I bought it via an ebay auction and noticed when I received it that, although well done, the dial is an enamel reproduction based on the fact that it has a "faux" single sunk seconds bit. I was wondering when these type of reproduction dials were produced. It seems that all of the repro dials I see today are not convincing at all. I couldn't tell this dial was a repro from the auction photos. I am going to keep the watch anyway because the movement is spectacular. Thanks in advance for any info!


Jim Wooldridge
September 16, 2006, 20:09
Robert V. Jones
Hey Jim I did not know they existed can you post a picture.


tymekeeper005
September 16, 2006, 21:16
James Greg Wooldridge
Yes Robert, here is photo. You can see the seconds bit is sunk, but it isn't a separate piece...




Jim Wooldridge
September 16, 2006, 21:22
Lindell V. Riddle

That looks like one of the dials sold by S. LaRose over the last twenty or so years. They look fairly good and are great for a carry watch, but of course they're not the real thing.

Unfortunately there are more Ball Watches than proper dials. This is particularly true for all the Brotherhoods and for Ball-Hamilton 18-size ORRS movements as well.

Prices for nice original Ball dials have gone up a lot in recent years.

Wink

September 17, 2006, 14:16
Robert V. Jones
Thanks Jim for posting the dial I can see nowit is not original but I must admit it is the first Ball one I have seen or at least noticed. If it was a 16s I could have helped you out with an original. 18S ball dials I rarely ever see.


tymekeeper005
September 18, 2006, 13:35
Mark Cross
That's exactly the same dial I had Samie install on my 18s 17j 999. You can see it in my 'found a Ball today' post in the Ball section. My original dial had an AWFUL attempt at repair, and it really looked terrible. I still have that dial, and keep it with the 999. As Lindell said, it's fine for a carry situation, but won't fool a collector.

Regards! Mark