September 04, 2012, 20:59
Jeff R. MoserQuestion on [16 size] Waltham Vanguards
Ever since I started collecting RR watches I had always thought the Vanguards were 21 and 23 jewel watches I have since run into a 19 jewel Vanguard were there very many of these produced? Thanks Jeff
September 04, 2012, 21:49
Eric UnseltJim Schneider has an excellent site devoted to the
Model 92, including run and production totals.
The Vanguard was the only Model 92 made in 17, 19, 21, and 23 jewel variants.
September 04, 2012, 22:16
Jeff R. MoserThank you Eric for posting the information. Jeff
September 05, 2012, 03:10
Robert McClellandJeff, I don't know if you were only asking about 18s Walthams, but the 16s 1899 and 1908 Vanguards were both made with 19 jewels in both open face and hunting versions in comparatively small quantities.
September 05, 2012, 09:25
Jeff R. MoserThe question was specific to 16 sixteen size sorry I didnt mention it. Thanks for your input. Jeff
September 05, 2012, 14:58
Robert McClellandJeff, these are the quantities of the 16s 19 jewel Vanguards (from the on line Waltham database):
1899 HC 2310
1899 OF 4699
1908 HC 500
1908 OF 2900
September 05, 2012, 15:17
Richard M. JonesJeff I thought that too for a number of years but when I started looking realized that the 18s 92 Vanguards came in 17 and 19 jewel. I also found how relatively scarce they are compared to the 21 and 23 jewel versions.
September 07, 2012, 21:34
Theodore J. Brown Sr.Jeff, The 16s 21J Vanguard is the rarest of them all,I have only seen one offered for sale, and that was a while ago.I think the 19J is much less common than the 23J, which are around everywhere.They all are great watches, as long as you get the earlier ones with the gold Old English lettering, the later models lost the high finish work.Many of them have diamond cap jewels on the balance.Take care, Ted.
September 10, 2012, 12:03
Paul D. TrombleyThe Jim Schneider Model 92 site linked above is incredible. I got lost in there for an hour.
Looks like it's hard to go wrong with a model 92 of just about any flavor.