June 25, 2009, 20:22
Tom BrownShow Your Loaner Cased Pocket Watches
I would be interested to see member's loaner cased watches. So come one lets see some photos!
Below are the case backs of mine.
Tom
July 02, 2009, 02:31
Tom BrownNobody else has any loaner cased watches?
I really wanted to see some others.
Tom
July 02, 2009, 12:36
Jerry FreedmanOK, here's one more: R L Van Hoesen was located in Thayer, Missouri, a railroad division point. His son Vivian Van Hoesen scratched his name on the case probably after he took ovear the business. It is possible that the Van Hoesen company was a Ball dealer. The watch is an 18S Ball/Hamilton with 21J.
July 02, 2009, 15:01
Tom BrownThanks Jerry for posting that, glad to see another one.
Tom
July 02, 2009, 15:02
David AbbeThis is my Chris Bauer #22 that I carry very often. It is a 17J Bunn and the loaner case is marked Ball Watch
July 02, 2009, 15:52
Tom BrownThanks David, yours is kind of responsible for me collecting mine. As you can probably guess I am a history nut, so I like to collect things that I know who they belonged to. After seeing your loaner posted here it got me to searching for them, so thanks for turning me onto to these.
Tom
July 02, 2009, 16:05
Tom BrownJerry
It sure looks like your Van Hoesen moved around a lot. I found his obit on the web. Which was;
Robert L. Van Hoesen Obituary Wednesday Morning, January 12, 1949 The Commercial Appeal, Memphis, Tennessee
Services for Robert L. Van Hoesen, retired watchmaker, will be held at 3:30 tomorrow afternoon at National Funeral Home with the Rev. Hugh Hines officiating. Burial will be in Memorial Park.
Mr. Van Hoesen, who was 69, died at his home at 1968 Southern at 5:35 yesterday afternoon after an illness of about five months.
Born in Clarksville, Iowa, Mr. Van Hoesen lived in San Bernadino, Calif., and Thayer, Mo, before moving to Memphis in 1930. He retired in 1943. He was a Jehovah Witness.
Mr. Van Hoesen leaves his wife, Ms. Dulcie Van Hoesen; and five sons, M.E. Van Hoesen, H.E. Van Hoesen, and Frank Van Hoesen, all of Memphis, V.E. Van Hoesen of New York, and Louis Van Hoesen of Mobile.
I found where he is in the 1880 census in Clarksville, Butler, Iowa living with his parents Albert & I can't make out his mothers name.
In 1900 he is still with his parents living now in Willow Springs, Howell, Mo.
In 1920 he is living in Falls City, Richardson, Nebraska. He is married to Dulcie & has 5 sons, Vivian, Morris, Louis, Frank & Edgar. All were born in Missouri except Robert from Iowa. Robert & his son Vivian are both listed as watchmakers in this census.
So according to his obit, he was also in California at some point & then Memphis Tn. where he died.
Hopefully I didn't bore you with all this. As I said in the previous post, I enjoy reading about these people.
Tom
July 02, 2009, 20:02
Larry BuchanHello Tom:
Here are some examples that I have seen on eBay over the years, this one from "Hancock in Binghamton N.Y."
July 02, 2009, 20:07
Larry BuchanOne from Las Vegas, Nevada
July 02, 2009, 20:12
Larry BuchanOne from Sidney, Nebraska
July 02, 2009, 20:17
Larry BuchanAnd one from Grand Island, Nebraska. I have some of the in my collection that I will post when I get my son to take some photos of them.
July 02, 2009, 20:22
Tom BrownThanks Larry, I look forward to seeing yours. I wish I could have gotten those Ebay ones, I have realized that sometimes the markings are not mentioned at all in the ebay listing & it is impossible to look at every watch that gets listed.
Tom
July 03, 2009, 20:08
Larry BuchanHere is a 16 size RP Wiggins 2 St. Louis, Mo.
July 03, 2009, 20:13
Larry BuchanAnd a 18 size True Bros. 10 Springfield, Mass.
July 03, 2009, 20:22
Larry BuchanFor a little Canadian content, here is one from my hometown, an 18 size DE Black & Co. 9 Calgary, Alta. I have documented information on David Earl Black on my Canadian private labels thread.
July 03, 2009, 20:25
Tom BrownNice Larry
Are those ones yours? Are they Ball's?
This is from the 1937 Springfield Mass city directory.
Tom
July 03, 2009, 20:28
Larry BuchanOne of my favorites from the birthplace of the "Brotherhood of Railroad Brakemen" in 1883 an 18 size RE Brigham 25 Oneonta, NY
July 03, 2009, 20:32
Larry BuchanHello Tom:
Yes, they are all Ball, and part of my collection.
thank you for the information about True Brothers.
Larry
July 03, 2009, 20:37
Tom BrownThanks Larry
In searching for railroad watch inspectors, Bringham was one I had run across, this is from 1965. They were in business for a long time.
Tom
July 03, 2009, 20:38
Tom BrownHere is a little bit more on the True Brothers, this is from the Jeweler's Circular 1899.
It looks like the 2 brothers were Fred L. True & Harry P. True, Fred was born Feb 1870 & Harry Aug 1864, they were both born in Maine.