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star case date

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August 12, 2011, 18:56
Tim Mathes
star case date
I have a star watch case marked-cased and timed by elgin- stainless steel-3057-0351739.Tried to find a manufacture date but have had no luck.Any one know about how old it is?Would like to put appropriate era dial and movement in.THANKS
August 12, 2011, 19:20
Jerry King
A photo would help, Tim.... Some as early as the 1920's others as late as the 1950's....

Regards,

Jerry
August 12, 2011, 19:55
Tim Mathes
I don't know how to post pictures,maybe my son can help.I'll do it as soon as possible.Thanks!
August 13, 2011, 08:38
Dr. Debbie Irvine

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August 13, 2011, 22:26
Tim Mathes
still trying to learn the picture thing...always a complication at every step...
August 13, 2011, 22:29
Eugene Buffard
Tim just so you know Almost every one that try to post photos in the beginning have trouble.

Please take the time to link to site above that Dr Debbie has so listed for your help.
August 13, 2011, 23:47
Tim Mathes
test


August 13, 2011, 23:51
Tim Mathes
i think i did it!


August 14, 2011, 06:49
Lindell V. Riddle

Yes you did Tim, congratulations!

That looks to me like a Elgin-Star Model 3057 Stainless Steel Case which would have been specifically manufactured for the Elgin 571 beginning in 1950 and used through the 1954 end of 571 production.

If I am correct about your case there will be a "crescent-shaped" area cut away where the movement fits into the back of the case-frame, this is to accommodate the unusual regulator design which is peculiar to the 571 movements. This would also explain the lack of a stem and crown in your case because unlike other modern Railroad Watches the folks at Elgin chose to go their own way with a detent system.

An image of the case-frame where the case-screws rest would confirm or deny my theory.

Now I will either look positively brilliant Smile or a bit Confused confused.

Carefully review this topic for additional 571 information...

CLICK: "Elgin 571 A, B and C Variant Questions"

Lindell

Wink


Look for the regulator-screw cut-away shown here...


August 14, 2011, 22:55
Tim Mathes
LINDELL YOUR POSITIVELY BRILLIANT!BUT...WHAT IS THE OTHER LARGE CUT OUT ACROSS FROM IT,WILL IT INTERFERE WITH A CASE SCREW...THANKS!I'VE ASKED ALOT.


August 14, 2011, 23:18
Buster Beck
That "other" cut out Eek

Is a very nasty "boo-boo" that someone made later that took away the value and for most purposes, usefullness, for that case Frown

We could speculate all day as to the "why's", but it matters little as the damage negates the value too severely. This case is now nothing more than a "shop case" that one might try a movement out in or a shipping case to ship a movement in.

regards,
bb
August 15, 2011, 22:20
Tim Mathes
SO... IS IT USABLE?WILL IT WORK AS A DAILY USER OR WILL THE BOO-BOO HARM THE MOVEMENT SOMEHOW.I'M A BEGINNER BUT THOUGHT THIS WAS COOL LOOKING,IF NOT COLLECTABLE.THANKS!