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I am guessing this bow belongs to a Model #4 case housing a 992.

However, what would be the correct movement (992, 992B, 992E, ?) and year of such a combo?

 
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To answer that question we need the serial # off the case. Not a 992B am I wrong.
 
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What I am trying to figure out:

Is there a block of years this specific case was made? Does that make sense?
 
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Jon,

Here's a link to a prior topic with more info:

Hamilton 992 Series Factory Cases

And I've also posted a picture of the various cases taken from that page. The Case #4 started in 1927, and ended in the early 1930's.


Hamilton 992 Series Factory Cases

 
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Ed would the model 4 go all the way to 1936. I have a first run or second 992e in a model 4 that came to me that way.
 
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The Case #4 started in 1927, and ended in the early 1930's.



Thanks Sir Edward...
 
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Jon,

The model 4 case was used for the 992, 950, and briefly for the 996.

Gene,

From what information I’ve found the 992E shows up in the model 2, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 10 cases. The first run of 992E is from 1930-1931 so perhaps a model 4 is correct for an early 992E but I haven’t found any information to support the model 4 being used for the 992E.

RR
 
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I agree with Richard, #4 is most likely OK for an early 992E.


Best Regards,

Ed
 
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Here's a chart I put together a while back for my own use based mainly on information in the Hamilton section here, augmented with some information from other sources.

I don't remember where I got the information that the 4 case only lasted 3 years, and it may be off.

Any corrections would be welcome.

 
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Mr. Craft....

That is wonderful chart! Very helpful!

V/r

Jon
 
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Great chart; it evokes several questions.

1.Nothing is listed for Model 9; is this a void in the data...wasn't it a short life, very scarce item?

2. Not familiar with models B & C what are those?

3. I've been looking for model 12 & 14 I assume these were 992B cases; found some worn model 12s in base metal is all so far??

4. Chart suggests only Model A (no shoulders I assume) and Model 2 was used in 1950 & 51 is that correct?

This looks like a great way to display the evolution of Hamilton Factory cases; can you share the spreadsheet? I'd like to integrate further research into it.

I'm attempting to assemble a collection of Factory cased 992 l,e,b 's. I'll not be able to duplicate what already exists among IHC185 membership as the supply is shrinking. And I just can't bring myself to buy some of them... Model 3 (Two tone) for example is hideous to me from a technical and aesthetic standpoint


Gary
 
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Thanks. I put it together to help me visualize what combinations of case, movement and dial would be plausible.

Excel Spreadsheethamilton.xls (34 Kb, 112 downloads)
 
Posts: 40 | Location: Atlanta, Georgia in the USA | Registered: April 02, 2010
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Thanks John, I'll make use of it as I do research and buy examples. I'll give credit when I post an update. Have info from severall other sources (Richard Romero, etc.) on this subject that I can integrate into a nice pictorial history.

I started researching my question 2 above and now understand clearly what a model c is...a rare but well identified bird. The model B still appears some what mystical to me saw evidence but not clear identity. So for now I content myself with searching for the 8, 9, 12 & 14 for my collection.


Gary
 
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