If you want to know why I collect South Bend watches, it's examples like this one that keep me going back for more! For starters, it is a 15 jewel model 207 from around 1910. The double sunk dial is in perfect condition. The crystal does have a couple straches, but that doesn't deter me on this one! The hands are still a very deep blue.
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The movement wasn't running when I got this, but only needed to be cleaned to get back to full form. The winding wheels have no rust and the movement is very clean.
Posts: 1626 | Location: North Dakota in the USA | Registered: December 09, 2009
I also got with this watch, the original paper in the back talking about the gold content of the case. This is only the 3rd one I have and they do not come up often with them. I'm sure they were typically thrown away.
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The rose gold top areas with yellow gold in the backgroudn give these cases an unbelievable look and appeal to them! you have to have them in hand to appreciate it fully. This is right at the top for the most unused south bend cases I have. for being around since 1910, I always wonder how many survived in this type of condition...
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I know where there's a few of them around . I'm always on the lookout for them too. I think Lindell has pictures of one of his in the south bend section someplace.
Jared
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Thanks everyone for the comments. Mark, to answer your question on the size, this is a 16 size watch. The 16 size seem to be the hardest to find with very nice South Bend marked cases on. 18s fancy south bend marked cases seem to be non-existent. I have yet to see one of them, so I would consider them coveted to find a minty example, if one exists. Lindell may have more input on this too.
Jared
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Ah, thanks! I can now add my surprise to the pile, as I've seen 6s watches in this kind of condition, but rarely a 16 s or larger....let alone a South Bend!
Amazing! VERY nice find!
HIGH regards! Mark
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and here is the paper in the back of it as a 25 year case. You'll notice that the thickness marked on the papers has gone from 25/1000" on the permanent to 21/1000" on the 25 year.
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I have a few South Bends especially some of the 16s 17s low production hunters and consider them as nice grade watches. I can't afford the really bad boys "The Studebakers" or th "Polaris" but I am able to collect some of the more overlooked ones. Very beautiful watches.
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I don't have a paper in this one, but this is another 16s South Bend (227 model) wrapped up in a South Bend marked case with a deer. Not quite as nice as the other two cases, but still very nice. If anybody find a paper on a 20 year case, it would be interesting to see how thick the plates are on it.
Jared
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Thanks for the pic of you paper. I find it odd that yours is actually thicker layered than both of mine, yet only guaranteed to 20 years. I see it also says its only 17% gold, so I wonder if that has something to do with it. Also, that looks to be a very nice 295 in your second picture, whats the serial number if you don't mind me asking?
Jared
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I have 470083 myself. I was hoping maybe they would be consecutive . I really like the pattern onyour first one. I actually have a couple 0s South bends with the same pattern.
Jared
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I don't know when they switched styles and would say they were probably mixed for a number of years as they depleted old stock and filled in with new stock. I have found the banner style all the way back into the late 500,000 serial numbers, which puts it in the 1909 era, but they may have been some before that too. It almost looks like they were introduced about the same time as the 16s model 2. I have seen a couple GF 18s south bend cases. They have both been heavily used to where brass was showing, so I passed on them. They have been marked as per your case inside above.
Jared
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Hope this helps. I went thru my 16s south bends with SB cases and here's the numbers I have and the logo type. I may have missed a couple, but here they are:
3,727,936 New Logo 5,11x,xxx New Logo 7,920,180 Old Logo 7,920,055 Old Logo 8,117,430 Old Logo 8,210,814 Old Logo 8,286,420 Old Logo 8,452,022 New Logo 8,728,976 New Logo 8.925,748 new Logo
I don't think this helps any. It may have mattered who they were selling the cases thru too. someone selling multiple companie's watches like sears & roebuck may have wanted the small logo that was less easy to recognize to their purchasers than a solely south bend retail jeweler would want.
Jared
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