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Ball movement need help

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April 12, 2012, 17:46
Phillip Sanchez
Ball movement need help
A friend of mine owns this Ball movement. He asked me about replacing the case, dial & hands. I really don't know much about these things except that I thought the parts that he needs would be hard to come by and very expensive. If that cannot happen I believe he would just sell outright or seek a trade.
Input?


April 12, 2012, 18:58
Joseph Pierzynski
Hi Phillip, don't know what your friend has into the movement $$$ wise but to give you an idea, a decent ball model case will run $150-$185, nice hands $85 and a nice dial $100-$165. If your hawking e-bay with regularity you should be able to find what your looking for by years end or sooner. good luck regards Joe
April 12, 2012, 20:41
Jon Hart
Phil,

I believe I have a ball case and nice dial for that there movement.

Just need to know the dial feet location to make sure the dials line up. There is a difference between the 21j and 17j.

V/r

Jon
April 13, 2012, 14:42
Phillip Sanchez
Thanks guys, he is monitoring this site. I don't have the movement so I cannot answer any questions about it.
April 13, 2012, 14:57
Buster Beck
quote:
Just need to know the dial feet location to make sure the dials line up. There is a difference between the 21j and 17j.


I didn't know that Eek

Phil's watch is a Ball Waltham I believe. Can you expound on that Jon Confused

I need to learn.

regards,
bb
April 13, 2012, 15:26
Lindell V. Riddle

The watch under discussion is indeed a 16-size, 17 Jewel Ball-Waltham movement.

Sixteen-Size Ball-Walthams came in 17, 19 and 21-Jewel configurations, they all use the same dial configurations and the dials would interchange between them. I likely would have several Ball-Waltham to choose from but they may have minor damage.

Perhaps Jon Hart is confusing the a Ball-Waltham with Ball-Hamilton, that often happens. Here is a topic wherein we explain how to tell the difference...

CLICK FOR: Ball-Hamilton or Ball-Waltham 16-size Movement???

Hope this helps,

Lindell

Wink


Ball-Hamilton on the left, Ball-Waltham on the right...


April 13, 2012, 15:35
Jon Hart
Yep - The difference is between the the Hamilton and Waltham model...

Sorry for confusing the masses and myself (Ha! ha!)

And Yes - I have tried to put a Ball Hamilton Dial on a Ball Waltham to see if it would work. It is not too far off. Maybe just clip a dial foot off and put a dab of caulking at the missing foot location... (((( JUST KIDDING )))))

Confused
April 13, 2012, 15:39
Jerry King
Don't worry about it Jon....

The "Riddle" filter Wink will keep everything running smoothly....

Thanks, Lin for clearing up that little matter....

Regards,

Jerry
April 13, 2012, 15:45
Jon Hart
Jerry,

Sometimes a good Riddle can straighten out a state of entropy

Wink
April 13, 2012, 15:58
Phillip Sanchez
My friend is in touch with Jon. Thanks guys for your input.
April 13, 2012, 19:13
Jerry King
Jon, I'm sure no pun was intended...? Wink



Regards,

Jerry
August 08, 2014, 19:02
William Vaughan
I have a ball waltham and noticed that the ball waltham uses the triangle hairspring stud while the hamilton doesn't. Bill