Well I seen a couple posts of others finding watches with their name on it, I figured Jones would be easy but still havent found one. I did find one with my first name though.

Then I was let down when I saw the movement and to make it worse the balance staff is broken.

Well, it's a start Rob! Brad

well, at least it's a two-tone movement.

the jewels look like tiny cored apples.

Robert, what kind of a case is it in? I am guessing a Tornado or one with an arm and hammer.

Rob, as you probably know, I collect Illinois "Stewart Specials," but this is the first watch I've come across that also has my first initial! With "B. Stewart" on the dial, I can't help but wonder if the jewelers first name was Bruce? The movement is a full plate 18s Dueber from Canton, Ohio. Tom, any info on this jeweler up in Manitoba?

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Robert, what kind of a case is it in? I am guessing a Tornado or one with an arm and hammer.

Actually it is a Empire 20 year case

Thats sweet Bruce I sure wish I could come across one like that.

Rob, if I see something for sale with "Jones" on it I will be sure to let you know.

Rob I did not know you were Swiss.

Rob, we Jone's need to stick together. I have looked for years for a Jones watch from a private label jeweler and never found one. I think most of the family could not afford the watch let alone the store. Anyway Dave Abbe did help me with my United States Watch Co. "Deacon" and that is nice for now!

Bruce

Sorry to say it was Benjamin Stewart born about 1864 in Scotland, arrived in Canada in 1889. He was listed as a jeweler in Carberry, Manitoba. I found him in the census records from about 1900-1916

The closest I've gotten is a Hamilton 975 with my initials (EP) nicely engraved in old English script in the shield on the front cover.

Ed, that brings up something I have been wondering about. Are there many here seeking cases with their initials? I have a "TNB" and immediately thought of Tom's Brown and Brunton but neither have the middle of "N". Maybe i will start a thread for people seeking cases and anyone interested can post their initials.

Tom, thanks so much for that information on old Benjamin. At least I can say he was one of my homies from Scotland. One thing I am happy about is that he didn't spell out his first name on his dials!

Concerning initials on cases, mine are BES, but I have yet to find a case engraved as such. One thing to note, though, I believe the letter in the middle is supposed to be the last name, so I would actually be looking for BSE.

Well my dad was TNB but unfortunately he has been gone for 44 years now.

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One thing to note, though, I believe the letter in the middle is supposed to be the last name, so I would actually be looking for BSE.

I have never heard of this and know of one situation where it for sure does not apply.

Lorne, here is a screen shot from a website that talks about monogram protocol. There are many, many sites to look at that deal with this if you Google "monograms letter placement," or something to that effect. Because it is a personal thing, I would imagine you could go either way, but my preference would be for the initial of my last name to take center stage.

Bruce, thank you, I would never have thought there would be a protocol to it, just assumed it was the way I assumed it to be.
I will do some reading but at first glance it would seem that if the letters are of a different size the larger would stand for the last name and if the same size the order is as I assumed it to be.

I picked up this nice little 12s Waltham model 1894 with my initials on it about 2 years ago. The watch is just 30 years older than me!

Lorne, if a nice case popped up with my initials in either format, I would not hesitate to buy. I just wanted to point out that the last name initial in the center is also a known format and perfectly acceptable. Good luck with the search...after 4 years of looking, I have yet to come across one with my initials

A bit more I found regarding monograms:

1. Monograms for women: The last initial goes in the middle, and is larger than the other two.
2. Monograms for men: All letters are the same size and the order is first, middle, last initial.

I agree with you Bruce, if I found a case with LPW it would work for me even if the watch was originally given to Lucretia Wilhelmina Pearbottom.

Lorne, did you get this male female thing from a site that dealt with monograms on clothing? I visited a number of sites that dealt only with engraving on jewelry and there was no mention of gender protocols. What was very consistent with all the sites was the general rule that if the last name initial is in the center it should be larger. If all letters are the same size, then it would be first, middle, and last name initials. This appears to coincide with what you stated early in this discussion. It seems that each way is appropriate depending on the size of the middle letter. Interesting discussion and I don't believe it has ever been touched upon before here on the forum

You know it's kind of funny that when I bought that case pictured above with TNB engraved on the back the seller stated this as part of the description:

Monogrammed "TBN"

I thought it was just a typo but maybe he meant it stood for those initials.

I would email and ask him but he owes me a $12.95 refund for shipping and won't respond to me.

And yes the male female thing came from a clothing site now that you mention it.

Lorne, won't eBay's buyer protection program help you out with the shipping refund? I've actually had situations where the buyer gave me a refund on the item and PayPal/eBay went the rest of the way by refunding me the shipping.

It's a bit of a story about the refund but I will send this guy one more message then contact ebay.

I started a thread in Wanted to Buy or Trade, Horological Items.
https://ihc185.infopop.cc/eve/f...6036171/m/2483976077
If interested you can post your initials there.

And we all know about mine. I'll be posting a few pictures when I get it all cased. Brad

Here is my latest acquisition with my name on the dial. I am glad it is an open face watch because I have some nice open face cases. Hunter cases seem to be bringing $150 to $250 these days

Here is a shot of the Dueber-Hampden movement. Needs a bit of TLC, but I am hoping to get to it in a couple of months. First step is finding a mint regulator arm. The Teske Patent Regulator looks pretty bad, but the rust appears to be quite light and should clean up nicely. For the period (1893) I was thinking this was probably railroad grade, but then it dawned on me that it would not be appropriate for railroad use with the Roman chapters. Any thoughts on that??

Still looking for comments on the Roman chapters on this movement that appears to be railroad grade (circa 1893). Any thoughts on whether it would be acceptable by any railroad companies?

It really wasn't until 1900 or so that RN's went out and AN's came in hard & fast. But there's nothing in concrete as all the different RR's had slightly different timekeeping regulations.

If your watch was made in 1893 then RR regulations for timekeeping were just being drawn up and used on the larger lines. Then you could have watches "grandfathered" in that were accepted as long as they passed the current timekeeping standards.

Most of the pre 1900 RR watches, in fact, had RN dials, but of course not all of them

regards,
bb