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My latest acquisition, would appreciate your views on it, It,s a full Hunter the dial is signed
C E Banta & Co Pittsburgh Kan the Movement is signed P S Bartlett Waltham Mass it,s 17j
With beautiful Dmsk the case is Royal 20yr its SW & LS the case covers are a positive fit
The movement # 14019665, the case 728900, I have looked at 1883 but cant find one in the book for
A full hunter of that year, the case has a floral patt, on both sides , Next how did it wind up on this side of the pond Confused

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Posts: 107 | Location: Liverpool, England | Registered: November 27, 2009
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Posts: 107 | Location: Liverpool, England | Registered: November 27, 2009
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Posts: 107 | Location: Liverpool, England | Registered: November 27, 2009
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Posts: 107 | Location: Liverpool, England | Registered: November 27, 2009
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Hi Leslie,

Your watch is a nice example. It is a Model 1892 Two-Tone mvmt. Very desirable.

I would guess that ebay sales have a worldwide market and may end up anywhere on the face of the earth Smile

regards,
bb
 
Posts: 6376 | Location: Texas in the USA | Registered: July 27, 2009
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C. E. Banta was Clifton Ellsworth Banta, born about 1863 in Illinois, USA. He was still living in Illinois in 1880 & was a clerk in a store.

There was not an 1890 census but a Kansas census shows him living in Pittsburg Ks. by 1895 by they did not document occupations.

In the 1920 census he is still in Pittsburg & is listed as jeweler merchant.

As to how the watch ended up across the sea as Buster said perhaps recently but who really knows. For example, a book I have been reading about a family originally from England, 1st immigrated to the US in 1880 but by 1900 they had sailed from the US back to England 4 times & each time they took all of their possessions with them. If this was just one family of approximately 8 people you can just imagine how many times it was repeated. Then you also have to consider two world wars with men from this country fighting in Europe & all of the personal belongings that might have gone with them.

Anyway, a nice looking watch & pardon my rambling.

Tom
 
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This is from the 1890 Fort Scott Ks city directory

 
Posts: 5107 | Location: New Mexico in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2007
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This is from the 1938 Pittsburg city directory. This might actually be Clifton E. Jr., he was born in 1904 & in 1930 is listed as the manager of a jewelery store. Clifton Sr. in 1930 is still listed as a jeweler merchant.

 
Posts: 5107 | Location: New Mexico in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2007
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Thank you Tom & Buster for the very interesting history, I saw the watch it wasn’t cheap but I had to have it
I just can’t resist the American watches, it was advertised as 1883 but when I could not find it in the book
I guessed it must be later, Thanks again Les Smile
 
Posts: 107 | Location: Liverpool, England | Registered: November 27, 2009
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