November 10, 2011, 21:33
Robert V. JonesMeasurements of a 17s Case??
I pulled out a nice case which I thought was a 16s case but it looked a little large so I tried to slip a 16s movement in it and it was loose. I then tried to slide a 18s movement and it wouldnt fit. Being a 20 year Crescent case I thought it would have had a decent american movement in it. No lever slot I thought maybe it was an equity since they are an oddball size more like a 16 1/2 but when I slipped one in it was loose also. So my question is I wonder if anyone would know what this case held. THe dial side opening is 44.7mm the movement opening is 41.3mm and the thickness where the movement would fit is 7.4mm. As you can see it would have been a pendant set movement. Any ideas??
November 10, 2011, 21:36
Robert V. JonesOnly one screw mark as seen but there is a pin hole in the front like the old keywinds that is at bottom by the hinge looking at the front would be at the 34 minute mark.
November 10, 2011, 23:20
David AbbeA case like that could very likely be for a Waltham 1888 Model that has a single case screw and a Case Pin to hold it into a 17 size case.
November 11, 2011, 00:42
Robert V. JonesOk Thanks Dave but all the model 88's have a detent stem which means this is wrong set up correct since this has a male stem??
November 11, 2011, 00:59
David AbbeHow about the "16 size" Elgin Convertible!
November 11, 2011, 01:34
Robert V. JonesI am not sure I thought about the elgin covertible but they are usually lever set arent they. I am going to try and dig up a model 88 I think you maybe right since they have the pin. I hope I didnt sell them all already. I will let you know.
November 14, 2011, 03:08
Robert V. JonesYour first guess is right Dave a model 88 fits perfect once I removed the stem and sleeve. Someone must have put it together at one time to try and put another movement in it. Now I have a nice case for a model 88. Just have to find a proper stem and crown. THanks Dave!!
November 14, 2011, 03:40
Robert V. JonesYou can see the movement fits just right and the screw mark lines up. I did some digging around and found some model 88 stems and then did more digging and found a crown to fit. Now I will keep it aside until I find a nice model 88 to put in it. Thanks again dave.

Took a quick picture so you can see
November 14, 2011, 11:34
David AbbeRob, there is a 17J Royal $64.64 BIN at;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1891-1...&hash=item519b22deb9November 14, 2011, 13:01
Robert V. JonesDave that movement is actually a 11-15 jewel and I already have several of those. I still have tons of movements I havent gone thru I like to find one like Kevin posted but running as I do not work on them.
November 14, 2011, 16:18
Kevin MoodieRob,
the Riverside movements are almost as fancy. This one is a duplicate which ticks sluggishly. If interested in a trade, let me know.
Kevin
November 14, 2011, 16:31
Robert V. JonesYa I am always up for a trade email me and let me know what you are looking for. You think it only needs a cleaning?
November 14, 2011, 16:32
David AbbeSorry, I did nt look at the watch, only read the BS which claimed 17J