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Pair of civil war era Waltham Wm Ellery

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January 02, 2009, 16:06
Mike Sandell
Pair of civil war era Waltham Wm Ellery


Here is a pair of civil war era Waltham Wm Ellery pocket watches they are some times called the soldiers watch they were the lowest priced walthams for sell when I was in the military the pay was not that good so I can see them buying these model's they are two differnt model's Wm Ellery the first is a 1859 model serial no 59864 made in 1862,7 jewel,kw,18 size.The other is a 1857 model serial no 132058 made in 1864,7 jewel,kw,18 size.There was a article in the NAWCC bullentin that said President Abraham Lincoln owned a Wm Ellery pocket watch.
January 02, 2009, 16:33
Edward Kitner
Mike,
A very nice pair of Walthams. Wish they were in my collection.
January 02, 2009, 23:25
David Abbe
Same here Mike,I have a W.E s/n 82594 c.a. 1863 and have "enshrined" it as a "Lincoln's watch", but you have the creme-de-creme, because the story goes that A.L. had a Hunter-cased W. E.


January 03, 2009, 16:29
Mike Sandell
Dave
I like you set up for your shrine I have read a lot about his watch some say it was the 1859 movement and some say the 1857 movement more say the 1857 so that's probley the one witch one do you think it was.
January 03, 2009, 18:44
Edward Kitner
Mike,
Does history tell us if he purchased it or was it a gift?
January 03, 2009, 19:48
Mike Sandell
I found this web site with some info on Prisident Lincoln's owning a waltham http://www.watchfacts.com/waltham-watches
January 03, 2009, 21:25
Edward Kitner
Mike,
Being a gift, I'll bet it was from a Waltham exc. A good marketing move for them!

I wonder where old "67613" is now?
January 03, 2009, 22:10
Ray Hallenbeck
Hi Edward,
I believe his watch is on display at the Smithsonian museum.

Ray
January 04, 2009, 00:19
Mary Ann Scott
The Lincoln watch is discussed in the October '08 issue of the Bulletin on page 520 in an article by Gary Arnal. According to his research, the watch can't be found in the records of the Smithsonian but they have so many items it is possible it is hidden somewhere. He also said the watch was given by Lincoln to a cousin, Dennis Hanks, in 1964.


Mary Ann Scott
January 04, 2009, 11:29
David Abbe
Mary Ann, good point, I found the article and it is an interesting "read" about this whole thing. So I am sharing it with our members


January 04, 2009, 11:29
David Abbe
Page 2


January 04, 2009, 11:30
David Abbe
Page 3,(I had to grayscale this page due to the old photos)


January 04, 2009, 21:16
Ray Hallenbeck
Sorry Mike, I thought I read somewhere that his watch was at the smithsonian. Thanks Dave, great reading.

Ray