I just picked up a neat Waltham with a Fob/Charm that I thought some might find of interest.

The Case

Closer view 1

View 2

Another

Solid 14K

Along with it I received a gold charm/fob

The reverse

Mike,
Great looking watch and very nice looking pictures. How about one of the movement?

Steve

I like that case & fob, any idea of the orginal owner A.V. Clarke?

Tom

Really nice Mike, congratulations on that beautiful gold presentation watch.

Gold case, gold enameled overlay, gold charm, lots o' gold, was there gold chain too?

I agree with Tom it would be interesting to know more about Mr. Clarke, where was he from?

Don

I have searched a little & I think the lodge might be from Lyndhurst, Ohio

Tom

I don't know if anyone is interested in this but here is some more info on the lodges mentioned on the case back.

Silver Cord Lodge #651 F & A M 1919 - 1969

A meeting was held Saturday evening, May 10th, 1919, in the Club Room adjacent to Glenville Masonic Hall, southeast corner of St. Clair Avenue and East 105th Street, Cleveland, Ohio. The plans for organization of a new Lodge in this area were formulated and a name and officers were chosen. A petition for dispensation to the Grand Master of Ohio was drawn up and signed by 64 Master Masons.

On July 14, 1919, Worshipful Brother James Morgan, a Past Master of Forest City Lodge #388, F. & A.M., was chosen to be the first Worshipful Master of the new Lodge. He presented the Petition for Dispensation and consent from all lodges in the Cleveland jurisdiction, together with a recommendation by Glenville Lodge, #618 F.&A.M., to Most Worshipful Brother Isaac Kinsey, Grand Master of Free and Accepted Masons of Ohio. Dispensation was granted on that date.

The name Silver Cord was chosen and credit given to Most Worshipful Brother James B. Ruhl who then was Grand Marshal of the Grand Lodge of Ohio.

At the regular meeting of the Grand Lodge of Ohio held in Toledo, Ohio, on October 16th, 1919, a Charter was granted to the Lodge and the number 651 assigned. The formal consecration took place on October 28, 1919, with Most Worshipful Brother Mathew Smith, Grand Master presiding.

Brother John T. Sheer was Senior Warden and Brother James H. Parker was Junior Warden. Brother William R. Carpenter was Secretary and Brother Ralph C. McBride was Treasurer.

On September 15, 1923, the new Glenville Masonic Temple was dedicated and was occupied by Silver Cord Lodge, #651; Glenville Lodge, #618; Glenville Chapter, #197; RAM; and Glenville Chapter, Order of Eastern Star.

In 1972 W.B. Walter E. Drake was Grand Commander of the Grand Commandery of Ohio.

Through the years to follow, Silver Cord Lodge, #651 prospered until the depression years of the early 1930's, and then again in the war years of the 1940's. Changes in the community followed, which forces a relocation. The Glenville Masonic Temple was sold, the corporation liquidated and Silver Cord Lodge, #651 elected to be a part of the Lyndhurst Masonic Temple, 5516 Mayfield Road, Lyndhurst, Ohio, in December of 1962.

Also I found that Audley V. Clark was a Past Master in 1938 for that lodge, so I think we have the correct lodge.

Mike, can you tell what is engraved under the embossed marks on the case.

Thanks
Tom

Thanks all of you. I was very pleased when I opened the package and found it to be interesting! Tom, thanks for the research. The fellow I bought it from mentioned Mr. Clarke as being in Toledo, but maybe this was at the end of his time. The seller said his Aunt had cared for Clarke and was given the watch, which was put in a safe until now (40 yrs). The presentation inscription is obscurred by the gold overlay, but it is for Lodge 651, in 1938. As you can see, the gold Masonic emblem was an after thought and was professionally mounted. The dial is made of silver with what appears to be solid white gold numerals. The charm refers to Woodward Council #118 and I don't know (other than 1942-43) anything about that.
As for the movement, tomorrow I'll photo and post, but it is simply a Waltham Royal, 19J, 3 adjust, 12s (or "COL" as the Waltham site refers to the size) The case is white gold which I find to be unusual. The chain I received with it is NOT gold, but the charm and watch are. I figured 3.54 grams for the charm and 20.44 grams for the watch in today's gold to be approx. $350. The watch does run and I cleaned it today, but the stem needs adjusting to make it wind smoothly. I don't know how to do this!

Very nice and very interesting, Mike.

Will you be selling at a future date.

Timely regards.

Roy.

Exceptional watch Mike. Is this a keeper? If you ever sell it I hope it is right here on 185.

I'll post the movement photos today. Yes, I may very well be selling this on 185 sometime soon if there is interest. My collecting has gone to the 16s RR side of the hobby.

Mike

I would also be interested in seeing this auctioned here, I think you might do well to sell it here.

Tom

Here is the movement of this Masonic watch. 19J, Waltham Royal, sn#26892421.

And still another. I didn't photo the disassembled watch but the serial numbers on the respective parts all match, as do the numbers of the White Gold case.

Mike
If you were to offer it for sale here I would almost certainly put in a bid - if you would ship to the UK
regards
Gerald

Gerald, as I mentioned in email. Shipping to UK would be no problem, actual cost.