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Jeannot & Shiebler Cases

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February 22, 2009, 10:48
Ethan Lipsig
Jeannot & Shiebler Cases
A current posting on a Ball-Hamilton points out how desireable is its solid gold Jeannot & Shiebler-made case. I collect watches in J&S cases, but they are fairly uncommon, and I only have six, all housing Swiss movements. I would love to see J&S examples from your collections, and to hear any information you have about this excellent casemaker.

To get the topic rolling, here is my 18k J&S-cased 36mm E. Leonville hunter.


February 22, 2009, 10:50
Ethan Lipsig
And now, an 8-size J&S 18k hunter, housing a Patek Philippe (Jaques & Marcus PL).


February 22, 2009, 10:55
Ethan Lipsig
Here is a plain polished 14k J&S OF case housing a C.H. Meylan rattrapante.


February 22, 2009, 10:57
Ethan Lipsig
Next is a bezel detail from an 14k J&S OF case housing an 0-size C.H. Meylan (Bailey, Banks & Biddle PL).


February 22, 2009, 11:00
Ethan Lipsig
Finally, here is the back of a massive 14k J&S OF case housing a Patek Philippe (Bingham & Walk PL). The complete watch weighs 134 grams.


February 22, 2009, 11:00
Ethan Lipsig
Here is a side view of the last case.


February 22, 2009, 11:02
Ethan Lipsig
Based on the examples in my collection, I would generalize that J&S made very high-end cases, mostly quite ornate, and mostly used to house Swiss movements.

Now, let's hear from you.
February 22, 2009, 11:04
Jerry King
WOW Ethan, those are really beautiful....

What are the circa of some of these....

Thanks for showing these and for starting the string...

Regards,
Jerry
February 22, 2009, 11:09
Ethan Lipsig
Thanks, Jerry. I see that I left out one watch, an 18k J&S OF case housing an 0-size C.H. Meylan (Frank F. Bonnet PL).


February 22, 2009, 11:33
John J. Flahive III
Those cases are incredible! I have never heard of that maker before. Thanks for sharing Ethan.

John III
February 22, 2009, 11:39
Brian C.
Very nice cases Ethan.
Brian C.
February 22, 2009, 14:13
Bill Kapp
Ethan,

I am too lazy to post proper pix and yours tell the story beautifully anyhow.

Great Grandpa's watch is what got me started in this hobby and you can see some info on it at
J & S Case

I had to buy this watch from my dad to save it from the gold diggers in the late 70's or early 80's.

happy hunting
February 22, 2009, 14:30
Harold Visser
Here is a SERIV HOoward in a J&S case....


February 22, 2009, 16:09
Ethan Lipsig
Great case, Harold!
February 22, 2009, 19:17
Andrea Schiavi
Ethan,

what a beautifull collection!
Does anybody knows the history of Jeannot & Shiebler watch case co.?

Andrea
February 22, 2009, 19:43
Samie L. Smith
The Early Ball cases were made by J&S a few years ago i owned 2 16 size 19 ball walthams both were in 14kt J&s cases and were also marked ball ..All the 14kt Ball cases i have seen so far which is very few were made by j&s that don,t mean all were ,,but the ones i have seen were J&s cases..

You sometimes see Ball watches in 14kt case made by keystone and other co,s but original Ball 14kt cases will be marked Ball either on the dust cover or in the outside case back.. Smile
February 22, 2009, 21:15
Bill Kapp
Andrea,

History of the American Watch Case by Warrem H. Niebling page 55 dates the company from circa 1892 in New York making 14k,18k and gold filled cases with the above trademarks.

Bill Kapp in NAWCC bulletin # 289 page 180 states that they were in business until 1910,


happy hunting,
February 23, 2009, 00:25
Harold Visser
Here is what the Jeannot & Shiebler trademark looks like....