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Any hope for my Seth? (Updated 11/2013 Hand & Dial Images!)

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November 13, 2013, 17:04
Robert V. Jones
Any hope for my Seth? (Updated 11/2013 Hand & Dial Images!)
Here is a picture they are not the best but no rust




tymekeeper005
November 13, 2013, 17:19
Dave Turner
Thanks Robert,
I appreciate the help. Eric helped me find a parts movement that has the hands on it.
However, I do need a second hand for another Seth model 8, but I'm not sure the post size is correct.
Eric would know.?


Dave Turner
November 13, 2013, 21:27
Dave Turner
Robert,
I'd hate to break up the set. Why don't you send these to me and I'll try to find a home somewhere for them down the road.


Dave Turner
November 13, 2013, 22:11
Eric Unselt
The hour and seconds hand are correct; that "reverse-arrow" second hand is actually for the higher-end watches and is therefore more desirable. The ball-end seconds hand was for the 7-jewel stuff like the Model 8.

The minute hand belongs on something else.
November 13, 2013, 22:24
Dave Turner
Thanks Eric,
So what models does this set fit?

I still owe you that cup of coffee. Smile


Dave Turner
November 13, 2013, 22:49
Eric Unselt
The hands will fit any 18-size Seth. The tolerances were never that close, so it may be necessary to close or broach the hands slightly.

The light spade hands should go on anything with a Roman dial:


November 13, 2013, 22:53
Eric Unselt
Rob's medium spade-and-poker hands should go on an Arabic dial:


November 13, 2013, 22:53
Eric Unselt
Heavy spade-and-poker should go on the heavy Roman dial:


November 13, 2013, 22:56
Eric Unselt
The open-kite are usually seen on the 24-hour Roman dials:


November 13, 2013, 22:57
Eric Unselt
Open morning-glory would be used on a dressier font, like the Gothic Arabic:


November 13, 2013, 22:58
Eric Unselt
And fleur-de-lis hands for the light Arabic dial:


November 14, 2013, 08:20
Dave Turner
Those are some fine looking Seths.

Not sure I ever even saw a watch with the open kite pattern.

Part of what I was trying to determine outside of matching hands to the proper dial is the difference in post size between models. (Interchangeability).


Dave Turner
November 14, 2013, 08:42
Eric Unselt
They're all the same, Dave. The canon pinion and hour wheels are the same on the Model 1 right through the Model 13, including the 5 - all except the key-wind Model 4.
November 14, 2013, 13:50
Dave Turner
Robert,
Sent you an email. I'll take the hands.


Dave Turner
November 14, 2013, 14:21
Robert V. Jones
I got it Dave hands are on the way to you.


tymekeeper005
November 17, 2013, 22:46
Eric Unselt
The key-wind Model 4 used completely different hands:


November 17, 2013, 22:48
Eric Unselt
Seth also supplied Louis XIV gold-filigree hands for fancy dials:


November 17, 2013, 22:49
Eric Unselt
There is a third style of medium spade-and-poker hands - a slender, more tapered style reserved exclusively for the Maiden Lane and the legendary double-sunk red/black Gothic Arabic dial: