Internet Horology Club 185
12size 23 jewel Illinois GEMS

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January 13, 2008, 18:28
Robert Schussel
12size 23 jewel Illinois GEMS
Back side of 14kt green gold Solidarity case for IL 12 size grade 416

IL Gr 416 Back of 14kt Solidarity Green gold case

January 26, 2008, 20:41
Robert Schussel
12 Size Grade 410- 23 Jewel Adjusted to 6 Positions

Since pictures of various Grade 410s are sprinkled throughout this thread I thought I would try to summarize the various variants known. It should be noted that the 12 size Grade 410 was the most prolific (N=4,680) of the 23 jewel 12 size watches that Illinois produced.

Unlike the numerous private labels seen on many Illinois grades I am only aware of two company’s with 410 private labels—Macys Lifetime series and Jason Weilier and Sons Boston. If you are aware of any others I would hope that you would share them.

According to Meggars and Ehrhardt none of the 410s have diamond cap jewels on the balance pivots nor do they have a true center bridge.

Model OF/Hunter Jeweled/Motor Barrel Production
Dates Number of Runs Estimated Block Serial Number **
3 OF Jeweled 1913/21 9 740
4 Hunter Jeweled 1913/22 4 140
5 OF Motor 1920/27 6 2800
6 Hunter Motor 1923 3 700
6 Hunter with
Special OF
Dial
Motor 1921/23 3 300

**Production estimates R Synder Database.