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23J 16s Riverside maximus Serial #???

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March 11, 2013, 19:03
Robert V. Jones
23J 16s Riverside maximus Serial #???
Ok does anyone know why this serial number would come up as a 21j Riverside rather than a 23j Maximus.




tymekeeper005
March 11, 2013, 19:40
Robert Lee Milliron
Check the serial number on the underside of the balance cock. If they don't match.......it's a FRANKENSTEIN watch.
March 11, 2013, 19:50
Robert V. Jones
Well I thought maybe but if you look close the damaskeening all matches and the bridge with the serial number on it is the same one with Maximus on it. The whole watch looks like it never was carried the 14K case is so crisp, so I find it hard to believe it was ever repaired much less made into a frankenwatch.


tymekeeper005
March 11, 2013, 19:50
Chris Abell
hard to see in the photo, are jewel settings same colors....


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March 11, 2013, 20:25
David Abbe
Waltham's Production records show 11534301-500 as the 23 J Maximus. 11534286 is only 15 short of that run, so I have no doubt it is clearly from the listed Maximus 23 Jewel run. There were errors like this in the factory records.

I think this has Diamond caps on BOTH the Escape Wheel and Balance wheel.
March 11, 2013, 20:52
Robert V. Jones
Thanks Dave I tend to agree this watch is just to pristine to be a frankenwatch. When I get time I will pull balance in case anyone asks but for now I need to get stuff listed this flu has had me down.


tymekeeper005
March 11, 2013, 21:04
Phillip Sanchez
Rob, It is clearly not a frankenwatch. Dave's explanation is the most likely explanation. I would certainly not be hesitant at all to be a buyer.
March 11, 2013, 21:08
Robert McClelland
Interestingly I found some photos of a 23J Riverside Maximus hunter also in the same serial # range as yours, 11534249, from an EBay sale about 2 years ago. So at least for your serial # range the database is wrong.
March 11, 2013, 21:14
Paul D. Trombley
Beautiful... I'm trying to figure out how many little league watches I need to sell to afford this one.
March 12, 2013, 00:26
David Abbe
Rob this is one that passed through my collection and is quite like yours. Note it DOES have the same 2 Pair Diamond End stones. Quite a watch!


March 12, 2013, 12:41
Jerry Freedman
David: Is the dial on the watch you show correct? I thought all the 16s Riverside Maximus dials had Waltham written in script.
March 12, 2013, 12:54
Robert V. Jones
I agree Jerry but not always easy to find here is one on the one I posted




tymekeeper005
March 12, 2013, 13:21
David Abbe
Jerry, sadly the scripted dial was one the watch but had a small corner missing on the inner chapter above the 5 so I replaced it (like a dummy!). The scripted one is probably still here in my dial "stash".