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Hamilton Dial Question

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February 05, 2011, 17:17
Mike Hodge
Hamilton Dial Question
I just received my 18s, 928 back from Samie and I would like to make the dial correct. For some reason someone has cut two of the feet off the dial and so it will not stay in place. I know of "adhesive dots" but would rather replace the feet, or the dial, for a more permanent fix. It currently has a Script, AN, SS, dial that reads "Hamilton Watch Co." in fine script. Is this a correct dial, and, would replacing this with a double sunk be inappropriate for this watch? Serial # 86,XXX dates it to around 1899.


February 05, 2011, 17:23
Mike Hodge
Close-up. As you can see this has multiple HL but a nice script. Is it worth trying to attach feet, or give up on it and get another?


February 05, 2011, 19:46
Buster Beck
That would be a correct dial style in SSD or DSD.

Once you pay $70 + postage both ways to have two feet put on you will still have a dial with H/L's. I would replace it IMHO.

regards,
bb
February 06, 2011, 00:09
Mike Hodge
Thanks Buster, Now, if I can only find a rep;acement.
February 06, 2011, 07:10
Phillip Sanchez
Mike, For what it is worth I agree with Buster. I would be looking for a better dial. You might want to check with Rob. Smile
February 06, 2011, 09:11
Mike Hodge
I'll do that. I currently have a bid on one on Ebay that I believe will work fine. Getting it is another thing. ???Will a dial off of a 925 (HC) work on the 928 (OF)?????
February 06, 2011, 10:25
Buster Beck
ALL 18sz Hamilton dials will have the same foot pattern AND it makes no difference whether O/F or H/C they will ALL interchange.

regards,
bb
February 06, 2011, 11:20
Mike Hodge
Thanks Buster, That helps.
April 19, 2011, 12:40
Lorne Wasylishen
I am quite new to this hobby and the more reading I do the more questions I have. In this case if one were to choose to replace broken off dial feet, what is the process. The adhesive dots are self explanatory but can the feet be resoldered without damage to the enamel? And there's another question, are enamel and porcelain the same thing?
April 19, 2011, 13:01
Buster Beck
Laser welding is the process and runs $35 per foot + postage both ways.

Some 19th century dials were made of real porcelain. During the 20th century enamel was spread on a copper blank and fired in a kiln. Then the lettering/numerals were applied and "short" fired again. These dials today are generally called porcelain, but aren't quite, but real close. You may call them porcelain to differentiate between melamine and just a "painted" enamel paint dial, and it would be accepted horologically.

regards,
bb
April 19, 2011, 13:22
Mike Hodge
It seems to me, and I can't say why, that MOST OFTEN Roman Numerals were used on Hunter Cased watches and Arabic Numerals on Open Face Watches. Is there anything to this observation? I know that RR grade implies Arabic AND Open Face, but is it generally that way?
April 19, 2011, 14:37
Claude Griffith
I think initially both Roman and Arabic numerals were allowed but as you got closer to 1900 it became the norm and later the requirement for a RR watch to have Arabic numerals. Some of my hunters have Roman numeral dials, others have Arabic numberals so I am ok with either.
April 19, 2011, 20:43
Lorne Wasylishen
Buster, thanks for the info.