Internet Horology Club 185
Is This a Hampden Movement?

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August 03, 2012, 18:36
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Is This a Hampden Movement?
I have an 18 size gilded movement that is signed "Brigham & Eager" and the dial and the movement plate and also on the movement plate "Marlboro, Mass.", "Pat. Pinion",Serial number "208038". It is KW & KS and looks like a Hampden model 1. If it is a Hampden it is approximately an 1881. The movement looks brand new it is so clean and the dial is pretty nice also..


August 03, 2012, 18:37
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Dial


August 04, 2012, 16:36
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Come on now. No one knows if this is a Hampden or not? I know we have some Hampden collectors. Does it look like a Swiss fake? The search did not turn up any information on Marlboro, Mass. that is why I am seeking the members opinions

Thanks,
Harry
August 04, 2012, 16:47
Martin Wagner
Harry:

I tweeked it bit for clarity and believe that you are correct, a Hampden Model 1.

Marty


August 04, 2012, 16:55
Peter Kaszubski
Hampden PL check this link
on lakeside I just bought.
https://ihc185.infopop.cc/eve/f...6095371/m/9433954377
August 04, 2012, 18:18
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Thank you Martin for the photo help. Are you getting much rain in Eufaula?

Thanks Peter for the link. They look just a like except for the name. Do you or anyone else that reads this know what the little solver colored half circle with the pin sticking out by the winding key is?
August 04, 2012, 18:49
Gary E. Cochran
Harry,
Its the winding click..If you take the two screws off the cover over the mainspring arbor there is a little gear (winding gear)that the click holds when winding the mainspring...
August 04, 2012, 19:33
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Thank you Gary. The Rockford minute hand works great thank you.

Harry
August 04, 2012, 19:39
David Abbe
That is an "extra fine" (Collector grade) Hampden. It deserves a fine coin silver 18s KW case. Preferrably Deuber, or Waltham.
August 04, 2012, 19:55
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Thank you David for your much appreciated information. I will search my cases to see if I have one.

Thanks again.
August 04, 2012, 20:20
Gary E. Cochran
Glad I could help with the Rockford...Second try was the charm..LOL
August 05, 2012, 21:06
Richard M. Jones
Harry that is a very nice looking movement. If you do not find a Dueber case let me know and I will rummage thru my KW stuff and see what I have.


Deacon
August 07, 2012, 23:12
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Thank you Deacon. I have had the movement for years but did not know if it was a Swiss fake or what it was. Since becoming a member hear I suspected it was a Hampden in Marlboro colors and was right as confirmed by several here.

I am not big into key winds so I don't have a lot of spare parts. I have two key wind coin cases but neither are Dueber cases. I feel like David and a Hampden should be in a Dueber case so I would appreciate you looking.

Thanks,
Harry
August 08, 2012, 00:55
David Abbe
Harry, a VERY IMPORTANT detail;

This is a Hampden made in Spingfield, Massachusetts where Hampden NEVER MADE WATCHCASES, only beautifully crafted movements under the Tutelage of the later Co-Founder of Hamilton Watch Co, and the Brother in law of my third generation back cousin, Hampden co-founder James Abbe.

Mr James did show some favor to the advances by Deuber to combine his cases on some Springfield movements at Hampden dealers, but by NO Means were ALL Springfield Hampdens assembled into Deuber Cases.

The main east coast "Case of Choice" in the early 1880's would be some Jewelers private stock of 14K-18K solid Gold case or a Waltham Coin Silver (AWWCCo) or someones silveroid case.

I have little doubt that one of your cases will be a perfect match to this watch in restoral. You have a movement that is too fine to waste on waiting for a certain case. Tallyho!
August 08, 2012, 08:29
Tom Brown
If you are interested the jewelers on your movement, Brigham & Eager were. Henry W. Eager born March of 1846 in Massachusetts and (Lorriman) Loriman S. Brigham born Jan. 1832 also in Massachusetts.

I can fin them in the city directory back to 1887

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August 08, 2012, 13:08
David A. Vasarab
Good job Tom for providing some provenance!!
August 08, 2012, 16:44
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Thank you David for the case information. And thank you for the history of your family and how it tide in with Hampden. I would like a nice coin case. Solid gold is out of the question. Of the two keywind cases I have only one is coin. If I can get a nice coin case at a reasonable price that would be great. If not I can put it in either one of the two cases I have. They would do.

Thank you Tom for the information. Information like this is always welcomed and does add to the enjoyment of the watch.