Hi every one I am new here. And I wanted to say hi. I have this Dial that came off a Hamilton 992 # 1539883. Which for what I determine is from the 1920s my question is does anyone this this dial is fake or been restored at some point

And the back

Paul,this dial was used on 992's of that time frame.It is model#577 I believe to be porcelain and it looks like it is original condition to me.Hope this helps.
Roger

Hi Paul, Welcome aboard! I'm sure you will find everyone here helpful. There are a lot of people who can answer about any question you me have.

Take a look at this and I think you will get a pretty good understanding of the Hamilton dials.

Dial Info

That dial is a CPR "Canadian Pacific Railroad" dial. Here it is on an early model Cross Bar case from our President Lindell V. Riddle

Wadsworth Data base with a picture of your dial.


Regards,
Larry

I could add to this that this CPR dial was used on their Eastern lines from the Lakehead on Lake superior at Fort William, Ontario to Halifax, Nova Scotia, the 24-hour type were used on Western lines from Fort William to Victoria, British Columbia

Larry

Just a question.Could this dial also be used on the American railroads?

Paul, Welcome. You'll find this a great source of information.

Thank you all for the info. You all have been very helpful. The little crack between the 3 and 4 happened when my butter fingers dropped it when I was taking the pictures. The chip by the leaver was already there. Thanks Paul

And thank you all for the warm welcome

Paul, welcome to our bunch of antique watch and clock collectors (pun intended).

You dial looks like it has some old smoke stains which will wash off pretty easily with a soak and gentle handwash in dish soap and warm water. If that leaves some stains still in the seams, try a toothbrush with medium to soft bristles.

(NO BLEACH!)

Please try not to drop it again!

Paul, here is a very informative topic on dial cleaning. Just be sure that you are very careful.

"Porcelain" Dial Cleaning

Regards,
Larry

Paul,

Welcome aboard! It's good to see that you are alerted to the potential pitfalls of fake, altered or reconstructed dials that unethical sellers often try to pass off as correct originals, without disclosure of the material facts.

Hello Paul:

Just another correction the dial was made for the Canadian Pacific Railway not the Canadian Pacific Railroad, a common mistake most British and Commonwealth countries like Canada used used Railway, while in the United States Railroad was the more prominent term, with some exceptions Like the northern Pacific Railway and the Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe Railway.

Larry

Thank you all for the warm welcome. And no sir I will not drop it again. Thank you for the info.

I have one more question what was the purpose of the crossbar case?

Crossbar purpose.

It helped keep the chain clasp from getting down around the crown, avoided getting it tangled which could cause loss of control when taking the watch out of one's pocket are two reasons that come to mind. There is also a screw that goes through the hollow bar and that can be tightened as mentioned in the advertisement: "The bow is fitted with a bar screw that holds it in place and provides for adjustment when needed."

Consider the fact that from 1924 through to the end of Hamilton Railroad Watch production nearly a half century later in the 1969-70 time frame there was always at least one "bar over crown" case to choose from. They were very popular then and are highly sought after by collectors today.

Don

Thank you Don.