Internet Horology Club 185
992B and 4992B

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March 03, 2005, 23:25
Julian J. Smith
992B and 4992B
I just saw today;
992B marked 'U.S.army'
Ser No C8017
Gold center wheel
Base metal case marked
Ordnance Department
U.S.A.
No.-OE-55
case ser.no. K-317184

4992B
Ser No 4C32122
U.S. Govt. Marks removed
No engraving on base metal case
J Smith
March 04, 2005, 00:01
Lindell V. Riddle

Thanks for the sightings Julian!

Is that first one available? If so how is the condition?

Lindell

Wink


March 04, 2005, 12:57
Julian J. Smith
The condition is very good,near perfect dial and the case is not worn badly.It's not mine. The owner might sell when the new wears off.
Remind me later.
J Smith
March 04, 2005, 19:11
Terry Hill
which dial on the US ARMY Julian? Single sunk heavy arabic numerical signed 'hamilton'?
March 05, 2005, 09:15
Julian J. Smith
Yes, the dial is full numerical,single sunk.
J Smith
March 05, 2005, 11:33
Greg Crockett
The "OE" prefix is for a 21 Jewel U.S. Army railroad grade pocket watch. A nice find.

Best regards,

Greg
January 04, 2006, 23:46
Tref Young
Julian,
Do you happen to recall if C8017 was a first signature movement?

Thanks,

Tref
January 06, 2006, 22:13
Julian J. Smith
Tref,
I really don't remember but I would think it is a first signature.It belongs to a friend of mine and I will try to get another look at it.
J Smith
January 06, 2006, 22:37
Tref Young
That's what I'm thinking too Julian, but am hesitant to assume too much. If you happen to get a look that would be great but there's no need to go out of your way.

Thanks,

Tref
January 06, 2006, 23:13
Terry Hill
tref,
first signature on a 992b did not change until the mid 20k range... and even then they bounced around...
January 07, 2006, 12:50
Tref Young
Thanks Terry.

You have mail.
January 07, 2006, 15:06
Terry Hill
i have the message, thanks..


January 07, 2006, 15:09
Terry Hill
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January 07, 2006, 17:52
Tref Young
Terry that box is an amazing find. First I've seen, though admittedly I've not been looking all that long. Are they as uncommon as they appear?

Thanks for both pics!
January 07, 2006, 18:55
Terry Hill
the decoration on the box was not factory....
January 07, 2006, 19:09
Tref Young
That's intriguing....any idea how it came to look so nice?

Here's something else I haven't seen before. The outer box for C107863, but with a label that doesn't have the serial numbers on it. Is this the kind that has the "other" label deep inside, pasted to the inside of one of the ends?

C107863

January 07, 2006, 19:53
Terry Hill
IMHO...

a label from a flip box on a blue pull apart....

also... this thread seems to be drifting from the original subject of military hammies?
February 09, 2006, 00:09
Steven D. Jencso
For the military 992B, what dials are correct? Were the dials specific to certain SN ranges or were the dials based on military contracts?

Also, there was mention above of a 'first signature movement'. What does this mean?

Thanks,
-Steve
February 09, 2006, 10:47
Robert M. Sweet
Steven,
The (024) dial was used on most of the 992B movements marked US Gov't. There may have been others used also. The four 992B movement signatures are also shown below:

(Top to bottom and left to right, 1-4)


Credit goes to "Fred Hougham".

Thanks to Lindell for posting the image of the 4 signatures in another topic.