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KM (Kriegsmarine) Watch, Zentra, Siegerin

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May 25, 2011, 06:28
Werner Rosier
KM (Kriegsmarine) Watch, Zentra, Siegerin
A few pictures of KM Watches (Siegerin and Zentra)
Tom might be interested in these!
KM Zentra Dial

KM Siegerin Dial


Zentra next to a Longines A 11 for size comparison.


Zentra next to Rocar




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May 25, 2011, 13:19
Jim Hester
You have so many great watches, Werner! I like both of these. Are there any markings on the backs or the movements? If so could you add a few photos?

I have a question about the Siegerin watch's hands. In the photo they seem to have blue-green luminous material on them which appears to be a recent addition. Is this just the photo, or are the hands repainted or replaced?
May 25, 2011, 14:44
Werner Rosier
Jim, there are no markings on the back or movement of a KM wristwatch, the markings are always on the dial.
As to the hands, no they are original, its just a play of the light, but I must admit a nice colour though Wink
Here is the Movement etc. of the Zentra





Movement and case of the Siegerin






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May 09, 2014, 11:14
Claudio Capaldo
The mine:


Sadly... some are worn or damaged, but still interesting...
May 09, 2014, 19:28
Peter Kaszubski
nice collection
May 11, 2014, 08:01
Werner Rosier
Claudio, welcome back, you've been missed Wink

What a great collection of KM watches, no wonder I can't find any more, you have them all Smile

All the best to you.


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May 23, 2014, 15:13
Greg Crockett
Thank you Werner & Claudio. Fine collections and a great amount of knowledge to go with them.
November 11, 2014, 06:10
Bill Jones
Claudio,

Can you post pictures of your KM Alpina pocket watch?

At least it appears to be a Alpina.


Mine has a black dial.
November 11, 2014, 08:10
Werner Rosier
Richard, the pocketwatch on his picture is a KM Cortébert Wink

Here's a couple of mine;
Alpina


Cortébert


Solvil Genf



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November 11, 2014, 12:37
Bill Jones
Very nice indeed.

Does your Alpina have a #337 movement?

Seen many with a black dial?
November 11, 2014, 14:44
Werner Rosier
Sorry, I've never ever seen a black dialed KM Alpina pocketwatch, the only black dialed KM pocketwatch I know of, is a KM Hanhart.

My movement is a 355, as is usual for these white dialed KM's.




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November 11, 2014, 20:08
Bill Jones
mine is a 17 ligne
November 12, 2014, 13:09
Mark Cross
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November 12, 2014, 14:16
Bill Jones
I guess it's not being a member.
November 12, 2014, 15:55
Bill Jones
Lifetime member now Smile
November 12, 2014, 15:57
Mark Cross
GOOD man! Big Grin

Regard! Mark
November 13, 2014, 12:39
Bill Jones
Here is my Alpina cal 337 with the KM markings.
No markings on case back that I can detect

17 ligne ....a big 10S or small 12S like the early Swiss made Gruen pocket watches and moon hands like the early Gruen watches

6 digit serial number obscured by me.


Can anyone venture a guess as to dates of production for cal 337?

Seems to be a unique size also for a Military watch.


November 13, 2014, 12:39
Bill Jones
movement


November 13, 2014, 12:41
Bill Jones
inside case back


November 13, 2014, 14:05
Werner Rosier
Hi Richard, I would say your dial has been "re-done"

This is what it should look like Wink

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALPINA...MARINE-/261106300969

No, just joking, that one has also been modded Wink

I have just gone through the Knirim "Bible" on Kriegsmarine watches...No mention of yours though?

Best Regards


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November 13, 2014, 15:19
Bill Jones
From the example on Ranftt's site, mine is roughly 53,000 units younger putting it into the mid 1930's at least, for a production date, wouldn't you think?

Does the book show any this size no matter the make?
November 14, 2014, 04:37
Werner Rosier
Yes, as to production, 30- mid 30's, but I haven't found in all of the books that I have, that this caliber was used or ordered by the German military, I wish I could be more helpfull, sorry.


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