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Elgin 16s GCT BWR

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October 03, 2007, 14:52
Michael W. Klipp
Elgin 16s GCT BWR
This watch is the 4992B type with a white 24 hour GCT dial & sweep second hand. The case has all the Elgin Military markings.
My question is; It has black hour and minute hands but a white sweep second hand. Is this correct?


Mike K
October 03, 2007, 20:24
Lau Siew Ming
The hand should be blue steel and the case nickel. Some of these earlier white dial CGT also have U.S Army A.C marking on the movement.


October 03, 2007, 23:59
Steven D. Jencso
Hi Mike and Lau,

I have a BWR with a white GCT dial, and the hands on mine are black.

What is the grade of your Elgin BWR with the white GCT dial? I am collecting info BWR movements that are grade 544.

Thanks,
-Steve
October 04, 2007, 00:45
Lau Siew Ming
Hi Steven, according to Elgin database, mine is a 22J Grade 581, although marked as 21J on the movement excluding the extra jewel on sweep second bridge.

regards
siewming


October 06, 2007, 00:42
Michael W. Klipp
This is a 581 also. I guess I'll just leave the white sweep second hand on it. It's a nice carry watch that I don't have to lever set.


Mike K
October 06, 2007, 09:52
Jim Hester
Whitney says that on your Type A-13, your should have either blued or black hands though I have only seen these with blued ones. They should all match. A white second hand, or any other hand, on these white face Type A-13s would not have been a good idea since it would have been too difficult to see in low light conditions. The black face Types are AN5740 and AN5740-1 and they have white painted hands - so that they could be easily seen in low light conditions. The AN5740 had straight dart type hands in the same shape as the A-13 hands. The AN5740-1 had a railroad spade shaped painted white hour and minute hands and the same white painted dart shaped second hand. It sounds like your A-13 has had its second hand incorrectly replaced with an AN5740 or AN5740-1 watch. I don't know how difficult it would be to find a correct second hand for your GCT, to put it to rights, but maybe someone on the forum might be able to suggest some places to look.