Good evening: I purchased this clock today and was hoping that someone could tell me what Tran put as a price on these. Yeah I know....a little late to be determining value now, but I liked it Grant
Hi Tom: Thanks for the quick reply. I really need to start getting some pricing books. I'm starting to use the names Tom Seymour and Tran Duy Ly interchangeably
Grant, there was one that sold in May '05 in Schmitt's auction for $600 but it had the 30 day double spring movement and Horton sold one in his silent auction July '04 for $535.
I have seen these with and without the carved top. Did they all come with the top carving and some have just been lost or broken over the years or where they produced with and without the carving? Nice clock Grant.
Derek: Thank you for the reply and the info! Good question on the top. As I don't have a reference book, I'm not really sure. I think they came with/without a carved top based on the ones that I have come across. That's what I'm hoping See the link for more #10s http://www.antiqueclockspriceguide.com/manufmodelshow.p...%2010&ordertype=DESC
In looking at Tran's calander book, it appears that there were actually three versions of the No. 10. An "old Farmer's" No. 10, and then two No. 10 Farmer's. The one pictured in Tran's book with the carved top molding has a different door with round opening for the dials with the other one having square dial openings and a plain top. When you look at the examples on antiqueclockspriceguide.com, there is only one model with the square open that has the carved top. Curious! Maybe someone that collect calendar clocks can answer that question.
In going back your original question, I have the 2000 price guide from Tran and it puts a $550 value on your model. I'm not sure if there is a newer price guide than 2000, if available maybe someone else has it.
"Reference Book of Ithaca Calendar Clocks," George Snow, Ithaca, New York, no date shows two No. 10 Farmers. The book dates back to about 1968-69, my Dad wrote his name and the date March 15, 1969 in his copy. Page 23 shows a No.10 with the top ornament, round openings for the dials, triangular pieces at the top and bottom of the dial openings and two larger triangular pieces between the openings. Page 39 shows another No. 10 with square openings and flat top. The illustration for the topless version shows some dark areas (like spandrels) in the corners of each square opening. There are other models with the same number, but entirely different cases.
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Grant I would have to say there are a few missing parts to your case. JMHO If you look thru the sellars completed sales there are some "just like" orginals and repo's they have some negatives too.
Gary
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Hi Gary: Thank you for the reply. I appreciate your opinion. Which pieces do you think are missing? From the listing pics, it doesn't look like there was anything attached to the top. I did check out sellers prior listings but..... I did look at other 10s on the Antique Price Guide site and saw a few different examples.
The following posts are scansfrom the George Snow book I mentioned earlier. I had meant to post a scan from the Miller & Miller book 'Survey of American Clocks: Calendar Clocks' Elgin, IL, Antiquitat, 1972, reprinted 1973, but there is a copyright statement indicating that no portion of the book may be reproduced without prior written permssion. I am not qualified to say whether or not copying one page would be within the fair use doctrine.
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From these pictures in the price guide, it appears to me that the glass is what is not original. Needs the gold circle with black spandrels in both upper and lower glasses. Like the square box store regulators.
The picture of old no.10 in the Miller's book shows triangular spandrels in the corners of each dial. The clock in the illustration has a name which I can't decipher in fancy typeface curved around the hole in the dial for the alarm with 'jeweler' underneath the alarm hole. There also was a No.10 which had pillars on each side of the front. The top and bottom of it are different from the other two and there are no spandrels or other decoration on the dial. It's 1/2 inch taller than the regular old 10 and 1/4 inch narrower, same size dials The back on the pillar model is hinged and swings open. I see that the alarm is in the bottom of the case; always wondered what that space was for in the New No.10 at my house which doesn't have an alarm.
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Hi Grant,Here is one version of the #10 which I recently bought.I don't know what they book for but as you said I liked it,if it makes you feel better I had to give $600 for this one.Bought it from a fellow local chapter member, came from an estate sale in Kansas.Kent