April 07, 2006, 14:45
Martin BergmanBank Vault Time Clock
my friend has a wind up working clock that looks like it is from an ond vault. does anyone know where i can find pictures of these type of clocks
thanks
marty
April 07, 2006, 15:15
Dave CoatsworthHi Martin,
Here's a picture of one of the more common (relatively speaking) bank timers out there. Is this the one your friend has?
http://www.antiqueclockspriceguide.com/pages/clock4746.phpI assume since you refer to it as a "clock" it's not a vault door timelock like this:
http://www.aagaines.com/clocks/bvtime.htmIf you are interested in vault door timelocks, there was a great series of 3 articles in the Bulletin in the late 60's or early 70's. (I can tell you exactly which issues when I get home.) There was also a great series in the AWI Horological Times, I think in the 80's. (I also have copies of these at home.)
As far as bank timers, I haven't found much information other than brief mentions in the Bulletin over the years.
April 07, 2006, 21:40
Martin Bergmanit is the second one vault door time lock without the case. thanks Dave .
marty
April 08, 2006, 12:17
Dave CoatsworthJames W. Gibbs wrote a very detailed 3 part series of articles on timelocks for the Bulletin. These appear in Whole Numbers 114, 115 and 118 (February, April, October 1965). If you can't get ahold of these issues, I can copy the articles and mail them to you if you are interested.
In the late 1980's and early 1990's, David Christianson wrote a series of articles describing pretty much each type of timelock out there with detailed repair techniques. If you let me know which model your friend has, I can dig that specific article out and mail a copy of the article to you.
I've been meaning for awhile now to share photos of a couple of interesting timelocks in my collection. One is a Yale #1 timelock with E. Howard movements. The other is a Duplex Electric Company Bank Vault Alarm System that is driven by an Illinois movement. I'll try to get some photos posted sometime this weekend.
April 08, 2006, 17:14
Martin Bergmanthis one has only one of the two clocks and no markings or case. the clock works well and at certain times will trip levers. the levers are missing . but it came with two time adjusting rods and assorted springs and screws. I'll try and get a picture of it and send it to you
thanks
for all your help
marty
April 10, 2006, 00:15
Dave CoatsworthI've put photos of my Duplex Electric Bank Vault Local Burglar Alarm System in the "Timekeepers Photo Galery" section. This one is sort of a cross between clocks and watches as it uses both an Illinios watch movement and a Seth Thomas #10 clock movement.
April 10, 2006, 17:29
Tom SeymourVery nice and informative set of pictures Dave. I have a couple of the "bank vault timer" clocks somewhere in the basement. I may have to dig them out and see what I have.
Also, thanks for the Bulletin reference. I will re-read that one as well.
August 13, 2006, 21:13
Dave CoatsworthSomeone who saw this post last week asked me for more details on the David Christianson articles. So, I dug them out this weekend and here is the list of Horological Times issues that contain the articles:
May 1989 - Timelocks (Part 1)
September 1989 - Mosler Time Lock Movements (Illinois), Part 1
October 1989 - Mosler Time Lock Movements (Modern), Part 2
March 1990 - A Diebold Vault Timelock
June 1990 - Yale & Towne Timelocks, Part 1
July 1990 - Yale & Towne Timelocks, Part 2
February 1991 - 72-hour E. Howard Timelock Movements and Variations
March 1991 - jewelling Techniques and Miscellaneous Notes on Restoration
April 1991 - The Victor Banker's Dustproof Timelock Movement
May 1991 - Sargent & Greenleaf Timelock Movements (antique), Part 1
June 1991 - Sargent & Greenleaf Timelock Movements (modern), Part 2
July 1991 - Sargent & Greenleaf Timelock Movements (modern), Part 3
August 1991 - Timelock Movement Servicing
September 1991 - The Yale #1 Timelock, Part 1
October 1991 - The Yale #1 Timelock, Part 2
April 1992 - Sargent & Greenleaf Timelock Movements (modern), Part 4
May 1992 - Mosler Time Lock Movements (antique Waltham), Part 3
June 1992 - Timelocks - Resetting an Overwind
June 1993 - Sargent & Greenleaf Timelock Movements (antique), Part 5
July 1993 - Diebold Family (modern)
August 1993 - Argentinian Rench (with Kromer and Kumahara)
October 1993 - Hall's Safe & Lock Company's Lock Chronometer
April 1994 - A History of the Timelock Industry, Part 1
May 1994 - A History of the Timelock Industry, Part 2