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Panerai - real or fake

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June 29, 2014, 15:39
Paul D. Trombley
Panerai - real or fake
Hi all,

I have a friend who was gifted this watch in 2006. He has no history on it and has always thought it was the real deal. Even though it is a nice watch, I'm concerned it is more likely a very nice knock off.

Any comments are welcome.

R/Paul


June 29, 2014, 15:39
Paul D. Trombley
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June 29, 2014, 15:40
Paul D. Trombley
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June 29, 2014, 15:40
Paul D. Trombley
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June 29, 2014, 16:43
Peter Kaszubski
fake by the look of the balance bridge do some searches and u will see for yourself.


June 29, 2014, 19:18
Ray Hallenbeck
Looks to crudely finished Paul..Mine has "Swiss Made" below the 6 position on the dial.
June 29, 2014, 20:28
Paul D. Trombley
I would tend to agree with both of you. The incabloc looks odd to me too.

I spent a quite a bit of time looking at auction examples and internet examples... but had a hard time telling authentic from fake there as well.

Most have a mag window for the date and have a lot more info on the movement... cal P-9000...

Peter, thanks for the photo, it helps me a lot.

In a perfect world, one of the guys that dabbles with swiss and japanese conversions will name the surrogate movement in my buddy's watch.
June 30, 2014, 03:33
Peter Kaszubski
Paul Im not expert but seen few real before I made my the homage.
But on that one the dial and the movement looks kosher to me.
June 30, 2014, 06:39
Gerald Zimmermann
Hi Paul

The genuine watch has the Panerai OP III movement based on a Valjoux 7750.

The other movement is likely a chinese SB1HZ.

Regards
Gerald
July 01, 2014, 10:54
Paul D. Trombley
Thanks Gents,

So, I think we ended up at (Chinese Knock Off)

Is it even legal to resell?

Paul T.
July 01, 2014, 12:06
Peter Kaszubski
if you got balls to sale fake watch go for it Just kidding
I suggest to change dial to one with out panerai
name before you try to sale.
July 10, 2014, 22:17
David Hall
It's fake...an Asian 21j movement with sticker on the rotor.
July 11, 2014, 10:58
David Abbe
I remember seeing these at knock-off watch seller's stands in the Seoul Korea Subway Stations around where the US Army was based. They were selling for about $25,000 Won (US$18.00) just the same as a "Rolex". The "dead giveaway" is the lady's size auto-wind movement shown in the display window.
July 12, 2014, 12:20
Evan Patton
Agree that it's likely a Chinese fake. Wear it, use it 'til it dies, just don't try to sell it. They are cheaply made, but keep pretty good time,