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Another Bulova automatic

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November 09, 2012, 09:12
Gary E. Foster
Another Bulova automatic
Here are some pics of a watch I got of eBay yesterday. Thoughts, opinions.


November 09, 2012, 11:07
Peter Kaszubski
those 23 jewels automatic are one of the best watches.IMHO
November 11, 2012, 06:46
Phillip Sanchez
That should do it.


November 11, 2012, 17:19
Gary E. Foster
Phil, Thanks for your assistance with the pics. Regarding Bulova watches, how do you interperate the model numbering system, this watch is a 10BZAC, what do the number and letters mean, is this similar to what is used for pocket watches?

Gary
November 11, 2012, 21:06
William Thomas
Hi-- the 10 in the caliber is the general ligne size (here, actually 10 1/2 ligne) the first 1 or 2 digits in a Bulova model refer to the ligne size of the movement: 5AH =5 1/2 ligne, 8AE = 8 1/2 ligne, 11AF = 11 1/2 ligne, etc. The letter code is somewhat more obscure, sometimes hints at features 11ANACD is 11 1/2 ligne with automatic and date. One thing to watch for with the 10 1/2 ligne automatics is that the offset cannon pinion tends to crack and then slip, making it impossible to set the hands, and these pinions are all but impossible to find new.
November 11, 2012, 22:56
Gary E. Foster
My interest in Bulova began because of the whale dials, the Sea King models, are these watches anything more than a dial variant, or a grade of their own.
March 06, 2014, 18:41
Mike Hodge
I just picked up a Bulova 23 Jewel, Self Wind like this. Mine also has the 10BZAC movement which is unusual in that most I see on "the bay" are 10BPAC. I read William Thomas' post explaining the Ligne size but wonder about the relative quality and scarcity of this movement?
April 27, 2014, 07:02
Robert Butler
The 23 jewel 10BZAC,and 10BZ are of top quality. They are not scarce, and they more often than not in working condition.
April 27, 2014, 07:59
Dave Turner
Nice! The band?? not so much. Eek


Dave Turner
April 27, 2014, 09:45
Ernest C. Barnes
Nice movements and not that difficult to work on. These 23 jewel Bulova's were some the best made for the day. Your's looks to be in great condition. Enjoy!
May 04, 2014, 04:56
Robert Butler
Gary, in answer to your question the whale is seen on the dials of Bulova Presidents, Sea Kings, Senators, and many kinds of Clippers, so that is one myth busted, as it has been said on one collectors site that only the Sea King model sported the whale.
Another myth, started on the same site by a supposed expert, is that the whale denotes a watch as waterproof.
Since the whale first appeared in 1969, and any watch by any maker were stopped from claiming a watch was waterproof from 1969-on, this is false. All adverts with Bulova watches having a whale on the dial are described in that ad as "water resistant", I know as I have collected thousands of Bulova ads, some from as early as 1919.
May 04, 2014, 14:55
Gary E. Foster
Thanks Robert for the info. Since this post I've picked up a few more Bulovas, 69 Sea King, 67 Clipper, 57 Ambassador, 48 Duo Wind, 29 Revere, 35 Trident and some others I bought to resell. On a quest for a Wrist Alarm and a Military issue.
May 04, 2014, 15:51
Peter Kaszubski
few alarms ww


May 04, 2014, 15:51
Peter Kaszubski
and another bulova alarm