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What is the purpose of this blued spring? "Click" to Login or Register
 
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What is the purpose of the blued steel spring in the attached photo of this recently acquired older chronometer? As a "newbie", I can't tell if it is original to the chronometer or not.

G Blackie Chronometer
 
Posts: 88 | Location: Brunswick, Georgia in the USA | Registered: February 13, 2011
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From what I can see in the picture looks correct if it’s what I think it is really need better photo/s to be sure.
 
Posts: 2607 | Location: Northeast Texas in the USA | Registered: November 20, 2003
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The spring is for the maintaining power assembly which keeps enough force on the train to keep the escapement and hands running during winding. Without maintaining power on a fusee timepiece, power would be completely lost during winding.

William
 
Posts: 1525 | Location: San Francisco, California USA | Registered: September 01, 2008
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Ah ha, that makes sense; thanks!
I've gotten conflicting advice on whether or not to keep the chronometers running, which I prefer, or to wind them only sparingly to protect their aging components. Also I I don't wind them daily, should them be kept fully wound, but not running, or be alowed to wind down? The Blackie chronometer seems to have some tension on it even when wound down. Advice appreciated.
 
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On fusee movements, there should always be some tension on the chain. If there wasn't the chain would fall off the barrel or the fusee or both.

Tom
 
Posts: 5113 | Location: New Mexico in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2007
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Thanks. The clock repair guy, when checking this chronometer out and who maintains other fusee movement antiques said that this movement "felst like" it had tension on the fusee movment even when wound down--which he said was good. Does that make sense?

Also, is there a consensus on keeping wound and running viz-a-viz displaying them static?
 
Posts: 88 | Location: Brunswick, Georgia in the USA | Registered: February 13, 2011
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Hi Walter,

This may help, If you look at the chain (and of course I am generalizing as many variations exist) if the watch is run down all the chain should be all on the barrel and the end of the chain hooked to pin at the bottom of the cone shaped gear if you touch the chain between the two you will feel tension, in the photo you can see the dial side and the ratchet an click (bottom of barrel) that after servicing you tension the chain, once set you never need touch it in fact the click is then tightened down so as not to release. On the right I split the two sections apart and you can see the mechanism William mentioned the outer spring is under tension and continues to provide power during the brief winding period and the upper tension is removed by the act of winding.

As for keeping it running, first you should have it professionally serviced and inspected you may cause or be causing damaged in in running it without, once serviced, unless otherwise advise by the watchmaker, there is nothing wrong in running daily for your own enjoyment, if you are looking at preserving it point of view I would once a month or so give it a part wind allowing it to run for a short period, if it was a pocket or wrist watch I would also advise changing it over from face up to face down after each monthly wind.

 
Posts: 2607 | Location: Northeast Texas in the USA | Registered: November 20, 2003
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Thanks. The explanation is enlightening and the advice makes really good sense. I hadn't thought about inadvertantly causing damage by running it without if first being serviced.

There is an person here in town who maintains old clocks and use to service chronometers off ships that were in port, but he said he hasn't done one in about 25 years. He said "you can't just dust them off and put oil on them" that to be serviced properly they had to be disassembled, each part carefully cleaned, and then reassembled, which was time consuming, very detailed work, and expensive. My question is, what is an average price one should expect to have an antique chronometer properly serviced?
 
Posts: 88 | Location: Brunswick, Georgia in the USA | Registered: February 13, 2011
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Walter, he is correct these chronometers take a good deal of time to service correctly and of course if parts are needed they almost certainly will have to be made, finding a person who can service these is your first hurdle and by the sound of it you have that person. As for cost if you reasonably estimate he will take about 8 hrs+ work to service it correctly, plus time to test and make final adjustments, this should give you a idea. I would offer to pay for a estimate including full disassembly and inspection to find out if any expensive hand made parts are needed of course once apart if you go ahead with service most of the estimate will be absorbed in to the service cost.
 
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Thank you all!

Mason
 
Posts: 88 | Location: Brunswick, Georgia in the USA | Registered: February 13, 2011
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