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Following are the numbers of movements and cases as observed in collections, auctions and sales: SERIAL NUMBER__GRADE__QUANTITY__CASEMAKER____CASE #__NOTES 3268701-800_______435___100 ____3268760________________________maker A______4622____14K 3268801-900_______437___100 ____3269857________________________movement only 3268901-950_______435____50 3268951-960_______439____10 3268961-9000______438____40 3269801-900_______437___100 3269901-960_______438____60 3269961-70000_____438____40 ____3269979________________________maker A______4523____18K w/enamel trim ____3269983________________________no data 3388351-360_______435____10 3388361-370_______437____10 3388371-380_______438____10 3482001-150_______435___150 ____3482018________________________no data ____3482047________________________recased 3482151-2400______437___250 ____3482178________________________maker A______4783___18K (scrapped), dial for Tiffany & Co. ____3482194________________________no data ____3482224________________________movement only ____3482245________________________movement only, dial for Tiffany & Co. ____3482298________________________maker A______4842____14K ____3482333________________________maker A______4860____18K for Tiffany & Co. 3482401-480_______438___80 ____3482411________________________maker A______7135____18K ____3482424________________________maker A______4737____18K w/ carved edge ____3482458________________________maker A______4538____18K w/ enamel trim ____3482476________________________movement only 3482481-500_______439____20 3650201-600_______437___400 ____3650230________________________maker A______7346____14K ____3650347________________________no data ____3650437________________________movement only ____3650511________________________movement only_____________“Marcus & Co” dial ____3650513________________________maker A______7622____18K w/ carved edge 3650601-900_______438___300 ____3650623________________________maker A______5449____18K ____3650658________________________maker B______7404____14K ____3761666________________________maker A______5406____“Tiffany” dial ____3650731________________________maker A______5536____14K w/ enamel trim ____3650738________________________maker A______7192____14K w/ carved edge ____3650859________________________maker A_________________18K w/ enamel trim 3650901-1000______439___100 ____3650916 ________________________maker A______7454____18K w/ enamel trim ____3650946________________________ ? ______________________14K ____3650958________________________movement only ____3650988________________________Knapp_______52616____18K 3761401-800_______437___400 ____3761455________________________Knapp________8369____14K (scrapped) ____3761550________________________Knapp________8386____14K ____3761639________________________Knapp________9030____14K dial for CD Peacock ____3761731________________________Knapp________9720____14K w/enamel ____3761736________________________Knapp________8747____14K 3761801-950_______438___150 ____3761882________________________Knapp________8423____14K w/ carved edge ____7761909________________________Keystone_____________g.f. ____3761927________________________Knapp________8726____18K 3761950-2000______439____50 ____3761987________________________no data 3885601-86000_____437___400 ____3885660________________________Knapp ____3885720________________________Knapp ____3885753________________________Wadsworth__1206110___14K 3904001-400_______437___400 ____3904055________________________Elgin Giant__5450871___g.f.__“Bigelow Kennard & Co” dial ____3904138________________________Solidarity ____3904177________________________Wadsworth__7082408_______g.f. Aristocrat w/ carved edge ____3904298________________________Wadsworth__7083060_______g.f. Aristocrat ____3904312________________________Wadsworth__1206161_______14K Aristocrat 3904401-850_______438___450 ____3904476________________________Solidarity____553715____14K Aristocrat w/ carved edge ____3904521________________________Wadsworth________________GF Aristocrat w/ carved edge & enamel trim ____3904533________________________no data ____3904553________________________Knapp_______11955____18K w/ enamel trim ____3904629________________________movement only ____3904635 _______________________Wadsworth__1206074____14K Aristocrat w/ carved edge ____3904659________________________movement only ____3904663________________________Solidarity__538019____14K w/ carved edge ____3904717________________________Wadsworth ____3904760________________________Wadsworth__1206050____14K Aristocrat w/ carved edge 3904851-5000______439___150 ____3904929 _______________________Wadsworth_1206012____14K Aristocrat ____3904933________________________Wadsworth ____3904936________________________Wadsworth__1206008____14K Aristocrat w/ carved edge ____3904948________________________Wadsworth__7083381____g.f. Aristocrat ____3904995________________________movement only Administrative Notice: Thanks to Jerry Treiman for contributing his data to IHC 185 for this project. | ||||
Great post and nice work, Jerry. Thanks for sharing all this worthwhile information. 12 size watches are of growing interest to most of us as well. Happy "smaller size" Hunting! | ||||
Here is a photo of one of the nicer cases (on a gr.439). This one is made by an as-yet unidentified casemaker who I have designated temporarily as "maker A". Characteristic features (although not unique to this maker) are the shape of the pendant and bow and the nature of the gold mark. Serial numbers are four-digit numbers in the four to seven thousands and are generally stamped in an arc (although individual numbers are upright). | ||||
IHC Member 48 |
hi I recently purchased a box lot of watches and found a no name (on the dial) 12size watch. Upon opening the watch I discovered this Illinois serial #3650661 21j Adj movement. Yes it is in a 14K case #7882 with enamel trim. The crown is wrong and the bow is missing, but the case is in very good condition. The watch runs very nicely but the main spring is broken. | |||
IHC Member 48 |
The movement | |||
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